So will Marquez expose Conamayor?

[eagle]

He gets on at my favourtie fighter, why cant I dish some back

Anone who has a go at Froch has very good reason to. The guy has never beaten a top 30 fighter yet he goes on about how good he is non stop. Anyone in the top 20 would have his record if they'd fought his level of opponent.

On the other hand we have Joel Casamayor. A guy who has faced such lightweight legends as Corrales, Castillo, Freitas, Campbell. He has either beat these guys or lost close and controversial decisions. After a long lay off he got a gift decision against Santa Cruz, but just as everyone was writing him off he got up from the Canvas to beat Katsidis.

To even joke about him being a con is just childish and uninformed. U wanna make VD look bad? Then brush up on your knowledge and beat him in an intelligent debate. Yeah VD talks shit, hates on British fighters, and talks up the whole gangsta thing but he does know a lot more about boxing than you. Anyone can see that.

[CutMeMick]

Come on Tam...

Casamayor and the word exposed shouldn't be used in the same sentence.
I'm not a Casa fan matter a fact I don't think I've ever been in his favor maybe a couple of times early in his career but I became frustrated with him with all his talks about not fighting and blaming everyone but himself.

Anyway my point is even if JMM beats Casa it wont be exposing Casa.
I mean Casa one of Cubas greatest.

I think if JMM beats Casa it def. put's him on level with MAB & Erik.

Before I used to rate them Erik, MAB & JMM in that order 1, 2 & 3.
With a win over Casa a case can def. be made that they are all the same or he's #1. With Erik #2 and MAB #3.

[Pavlik]

JMM wil beat Casa, and I won't be suprised if they put JMM ahead of PAC in the P4P ratings. JMM has very underated punching power and chin, JMM might as well be the most BALANCED fighter out there.

[Violent Demise]

I hope the thread starter didn't pull a muscle reaching. Poor kid. Either way Casamayor ain't losing. Marquez is a great fighter. And has always been a favorite. But I think he's moving up one division to many.

[Spicoli]

One of the truly if not underrated, than under appreciated Fighters in the modern Era ....Marquez! He will have to be the aggressor here though.Both are tattered and hitting that other side off very top notch careers.Not comfortable with the extra weight & battle damage but I'm picking Marquez none the less True winner take all (Career) match.

[Galaxy]

This should be an excellent fight. Two technically brilliant fighters with a wealth of experience. If Marquez is victorious it by no means exposes Casamayor. Joel is one of the most proven fighters around... he has fought Corrales x3 & Castillo as well as a host top opposition. An argument could be made he should still be undefeated.

This is a fight between 2 highly proven warriors!!!

[rene69]

One of the truly if not underrated, than under appreciated Fighters in the modern Era ....Marquez! He will have to be the aggressor here though.Both are tattered and hitting that other side off very top notch careers.Not comfortable with the extra weight & battle damage but I'm picking Marquez none the less True winner take all (Career) match.

I totally agree with every word on this one. Great post!!

[GAME]

Come on Tam...

Casamayor and the word exposed shouldn't be used in the same sentence.
I'm not a Casa fan matter a fact I don't think I've ever been in his favor maybe a couple of times early in his career but I became frustrated with him with all his talks about not fighting and blaming everyone but himself.

Anyway my point is even if JMM beats Casa it wont be exposing Casa.
I mean Casa one of Cubas greatest.

I think if JMM beats Casa it def. put's him on level with MAB & Erik.

Before I used to rate them Erik, MAB & JMM in that order 1, 2 & 3.
With a win over Casa a case can def. be made that they are all the same or he's #1. With Erik #2 and MAB #3.

Nah Barreras been around longer and hes beaten undefeated p4p fighters . Erik and Jmm havent

Barrera 1 -
Erik 2
JMM 3

[CutMeMick]

Come on Tam...

Casamayor and the word exposed shouldn't be used in the same sentence.
I'm not a Casa fan matter a fact I don't think I've ever been in his favor maybe a couple of times early in his career but I became frustrated with him with all his talks about not fighting and blaming everyone but himself.

Anyway my point is even if JMM beats Casa it wont be exposing Casa.
I mean Casa one of Cubas greatest.

I think if JMM beats Casa it def. put's him on level with MAB & Erik.

Before I used to rate them Erik, MAB & JMM in that order 1, 2 & 3.
With a win over Casa a case can def. be made that they are all the same or he's #1. With Erik #2 and MAB #3.

Nah Barreras been around longer and hes beaten undefeated p4p fighters . Erik and Jmm havent

Barrera 1 -
Erik 2
JMM 3

JMM has virtually beaten Pac twice someone whom MAB lost to.
JMM has a win over MAB
If JMM can get a win here I don't see how someone can't possibly consider him better then MAB.
A great arguement can be made IMO.

[GAME]

Come on Tam...

Casamayor and the word exposed shouldn't be used in the same sentence.
I'm not a Casa fan matter a fact I don't think I've ever been in his favor maybe a couple of times early in his career but I became frustrated with him with all his talks about not fighting and blaming everyone but himself.

Anyway my point is even if JMM beats Casa it wont be exposing Casa.
I mean Casa one of Cubas greatest.

I think if JMM beats Casa it def. put's him on level with MAB & Erik.

Before I used to rate them Erik, MAB & JMM in that order 1, 2 & 3.
With a win over Casa a case can def. be made that they are all the same or he's #1. With Erik #2 and MAB #3.

Nah Barreras been around longer and hes beaten undefeated p4p fighters . Erik and Jmm havent

Barrera 1 -
Erik 2
JMM 3

JMM has virtually beaten Pac twice someone whom MAB lost to.
JMM has a win over MAB
If JMM can get a win here I don't see how someone can't possibly consider him better then MAB.
A great arguement can be made IMO.

But history doesnt rate fighters just on the end of their careers . We have to look at the bigger picture. When Barrera was beating guys liek Mckinney in thrillers what were Pac and Marquez doing ?

Anyway Barrera took Eriks zero and Naseems zero . Who has Marquez ever beat apart from an old Barrera and for the record alot of people thought Barrera was robbed included Harold Lederman . Not even close IMO . Marquez has got alot to do b4 he can be considered as great as his Countrymen .

[CutMeMick]

Nah Barreras been around longer and hes beaten undefeated p4p fighters . Erik and Jmm havent

Barrera 1 -
Erik 2
JMM 3

JMM has virtually beaten Pac twice someone whom MAB lost to.
JMM has a win over MAB
If JMM can get a win here I don't see how someone can't possibly consider him better then MAB.
A great arguement can be made IMO.

But history doesnt rate fighters just on the end of their careers . We have to look at the bigger picture. When Barrera was beating guys liek Mckinney in thrillers what were Pac and Marquez doing ?

Anyway Barrera took Eriks zero and Naseems zero . Who has Marquez ever beat apart from an old Barrera and for the record alot of people thought Barrera was robbed included Harold Lederman . Not even close IMO . Marquez has got alot to do b4 he can be considered as great as his Countrymen .

I think JMM has been doing it and is still doing just that...
A top 5 P4P'der for some time now.

Game, I know your a MAB fan hardcore.... It wasn't until later in MABs career that I started to like him now this doesn't mean I don't know about his skills or what his career is about. MAB was one of those fighters that did a lot of things well. He could change up his style for any fight and adapt to a fighter.

But you can't hack at JMM, I mean aside from his early loss he's possibly unbeaten at World Class level. I just think that for many years JMM has been shafted (me included) and pushed aside JMM in this fight can catapult himself as I said if NOT above them then right next to them.

[leftylee]

Come on Tam...

Casamayor and the word exposed shouldn't be used in the same sentence.
I'm not a Casa fan matter a fact I don't think I've ever been in his favor maybe a couple of times early in his career but I became frustrated with him with all his talks about not fighting and blaming everyone but himself.

Anyway my point is even if JMM beats Casa it wont be exposing Casa.
I mean Casa one of Cubas greatest.

I think if JMM beats Casa it def. put's him on level with MAB & Erik.

Before I used to rate them Erik, MAB & JMM in that order 1, 2 & 3.
With a win over Casa a case can def. be made that they are all the same or he's #1. With Erik #2 and MAB #3.

Nah Barreras been around longer and hes beaten undefeated p4p fighters . Erik and Jmm havent

Barrera 1 -
Erik 2
JMM 3

JMM has virtually beaten Pac twice someone whom MAB lost to.
JMM has a win over MAB
If JMM can get a win here I don't see how someone can't possibly consider him better then MAB.
A great arguement can be made IMO.

JMM-Barrera was highly controversial. Some including myself had Barrera winning. The judges scorecards were bullshit. Barrera scored a clean knockdown and ok he did throw a head shot afterwards but that doesn't mean the KD shouldn't be counted. He should have had a warning maximum.