< Andy Lee vs. Willie Gibbs > July 19th

[ssss]

I used to read a few other forums on how Lee could beat Winky and Pavlik i find that laughable i never thought Lee was anything special i would say he is just over mediocre and thats it seems like alot of prospects are getting exposed lately

[killersheep]

I think the thing that shocked me the most was when Lee would hold out his right, Gibbs would just bat it down instead of using that as an oppotunity to step in, a fatal mistake really. It looked like Gibbs was trying to fight as the taller man. Really dissapointed in Gibbs performance.

[Deanrw]

Stewart still thinks he has the best middleweight in the world in his hands. From that fight he would lose to all three title holders.

He has good skills but still looks vulnerable in there.

Gibbs had no game plan at all. Just winging shots sparingly.

[Otley]

Emmanual Stewart sees something we all can't see.......so I guess Andy Lee is a work in progress......if I had to give Lee some advice it would be to tighten that defence more and move yer head.......great last rnd but the juries still out on this guy

[CutMeMick]

I'm just happy the kid won cause aside from myslef and maybe one or two others no one thought Lee would comeback and win....

[Kev]

I'm just happy the kid won cause aside from myslef and maybe one or two others no one thought Lee would comeback and win....

Ah come on Mick I don't think many would have seriously not thought Lee could win this, I mean Gibbs was blown away by Miranda in about 8 seconds if I recall.

Lee is overatted though, anyone who loses to Brian Vera by KO and gets beat up like he did will never be a serious world champion imo.

Looking back over the all the past middleweight greats I can't think of any who got beaten up by a journeyman so bad, sure some got knocked out to decent guys or world champs but I can't think of anyone who got beat down by a club fighter.

[amat]

Yeah I was expecting an early round KO to be honest, it's Willie Gibbs. Any fighter with a decent chin and right hand I probably wouldn't take Lee to beat.

[CutMeMick]

I'm just happy the kid won cause aside from myslef and maybe one or two others no one thought Lee would comeback and win....

Ah come on Mick I don't think many would have seriously not thought Lee could win this, I mean Gibbs was blown away by Miranda in about 8 seconds if I recall.

Lee is overatted though, anyone who loses to Brian Vera by KO and gets beat up like he did will never be a serious world champion imo.

Looking back over the all the past middleweight greats I can't think of any who got beaten up by a journeyman so bad, sure some got knocked out to decent guys or world champs but I can't think of anyone who got beat down by a club fighter.

I'm talking about prior to the fight.
I'm talking about the VERY next day after he lost to Vera.
People quickly wrote him off and said he wouldn't win again and that he would loose in his comeback fight.
Myself and I think 2 others said we thought Lee would comeback and win.

Don't missinterpret my post. I'm not raving and rooting
with joy. By any means Am I even a fan of the kid.
All I'm saying is that I'm glad he won cause the very next day after he lost to Vera I would say 8 out of 10 people said he was done.

That is all nothing more nothing less.

I don't wanna defend the kid cause like I said I'm just happy he proved me right. But that whole Middleweight beat by a bum I mean come on Lees got what 17 fights I think.
You realize Monzon started off his career 18-3-3 and 1 NC.

Not comparing them per say but anyone can start off with the wrong foot it's what you do after that makes you great.

Anyway now that he proved me right maybe he can prove me right again as I think when he faces a top level fighter he'll lose.

[Kev]

I'm just happy the kid won cause aside from myslef and maybe one or two others no one thought Lee would comeback and win....

Ah come on Mick I don't think many would have seriously not thought Lee could win this, I mean Gibbs was blown away by Miranda in about 8 seconds if I recall.

Lee is overatted though, anyone who loses to Brian Vera by KO and gets beat up like he did will never be a serious world champion imo.

Looking back over the all the past middleweight greats I can't think of any who got beaten up by a journeyman so bad, sure some got knocked out to decent guys or world champs but I can't think of anyone who got beat down by a club fighter.

I'm talking about prior to the fight.
I'm talking about the VERY next day after he lost to Vera.
People quickly wrote him off and said he wouldn't win again and that he would loose in his comeback fight.
Myself and I think 2 others said we thought Lee would comeback and win.

Don't missinterpret my post. I'm not raving and rooting
with joy. By any means Am I even a fan of the kid.
All I'm saying is that I'm glad he won cause the very next day after he lost to Vera I would say 8 out of 10 people said he was done.

That is all nothing more nothing less.

I don't wanna defend the kid cause like I said I'm just happy he proved me right. But that whole Middleweight beat by a bum I mean come on Lees got what 17 fights I think.
You realize Monzon started off his career 18-3-3 and 1 NC.

Not comparing them per say but anyone can start off with the wrong foot it's what you do after that makes you great.

Anyway now that he proved me right maybe he can prove me right again as I think when he faces a top level fighter he'll lose.

Nah Mick you're misunderstanding me I'm not on about getting beat I'm on about getting beat up. Lee got overwhelmed and battered by a club fighter, big difference to losing on points.

Plus Monzon, Margarito and the like started their careers fighting for peanuts with no managers or trainers behind them.

Lee has got arguably the greatest trainer in the world in his corner and trains in the world's best gym with access to better sparring partners than any unknown South American fighter starting out could dream of.

I'm not saying he won't pick up a belt, he may well do, he's only young after all, I'm just saying there's no way he's going to be a great champion like Steward is saying.

I could be wrong, after all who would have thought 4 years ago that Wladimir would be ruling the heavyweight division now but I just can't see it.

[donnydarkoIRL]

(Hitmandonny's excuse for Lee post)

Dec went to th weigh in.
Spent a lot of time with Gibbs in the US and said he had never looked as Dieseled up for a fight.
(Or as healthy)