Shifting of opinions: Knowledgeable? or Fickle fans?

[Pavlik]

This thread might as well be applied to our very own Manny PACMAN Pacquiao who'm back in 2003 was considered a flash in a pan. His win over Barera was considered a fluke and his loss to Erik Morales reduced him to a "Gatekeeper" I remembered somebody in this forum said he might become.
I can't believe it has been almost 6 years that Pacfans like me have been defending our Hero here and elsewhere(my sign up date here shows that).
In that 6 years PAC made some of you a believer. Some like him already just hates his fans but regardless PAC's impact in the sport cannot be denied.

[Spicoli]

Fighters grow,evolve and Improve.....thus making new fans.Same with fans.Its really a natural occurence for open minded fans.....of course "Open Minded" is the key Lol.When I saw Mosley coming up,I could not stand him at all,Too flashy,big cheesy smile,fleet of foot (I thought),allll the constant Hype and declarations of him being "The next this,the next that" ,etc.After the Rivera fight....That all changed and I was on board.

as for Margarito.I first saw him live Vs.Rodney Jones in a loss and that was all she wrote...even in a loss.Then he went in with on & off power hitter Ankamah who was being pushed hard in promotions and Margarito pulverized him.Been a solid fan ever sinse.Win, lose, or draw...no part timer here

[brucelee]

Fighters grow,evolve and Improve.....thus making new fans.Same with fans.Its really a natural occurence for open minded fans.....of course "Open Minded" is the key Lol.When I saw Mosley coming up,I could not stand him at all,Too flashy,big cheesy smile,fleet of foot (I thought),allll the constant Hype and declarations of him being "The next this,the next that" ,etc.After the Rivera fight....That all changed and I was on board.

as for Margarito.I first saw him live Vs.Rodney Jones in a loss and that was all she wrote...even in a loss.Then he went in with on & off power hitter Ankamah who was being pushed hard in promotions and Margarito pulverized him.Been a solid fan ever sinse.Win, lose, or draw...no part timer here

After Mosley schooled ODLH, I became his loyal fan. I can still remember it though it happened 8 years ago.

[Spicoli]

Fighters grow,evolve and Improve.....thus making new fans.Same with fans.Its really a natural occurrence for open minded fans.....of course "Open Minded" is the key Lol.When I saw Mosley coming up,I could not stand him at all,Too flashy,big cheesy smile,fleet of foot (I thought),allll the constant Hype and declarations of him being "The next this,the next that" ,etc.After the Rivera fight....That all changed and I was on board.

as for Margarito.I first saw him live Vs.Rodney Jones in a loss and that was all she wrote...even in a loss.Then he went in with on & off power hitter Ankamah who was being pushed hard in promotions and Margarito pulverized him.Been a solid fan ever sinse.Win, lose, or draw...no part timer here

After Mosley schooled ODLH, I became his loyal fan. I can still remember it though it happened 8 years ago.

Its a great thing,anytime you can do a 180 on a fighter.Better yet is seeing a fighters career from jump off and being able to say...."I saw it live" and followed him throughout.Sort of feels like a culmination.It gets more difficult as you go and the longer you follow the sport with the ones that have literally hung around too long from when You first started following them.I'm there right now with Holyfield and almost there with Hopkins You remember where you were when it was all gravy and what was going on with there careers.You can not live on yesterdays alone Lol. Now you think.....ahh come on man,call it a career already !!

[brucelee]

Fighters grow,evolve and Improve.....thus making new fans.Same with fans.Its really a natural occurrence for open minded fans.....of course "Open Minded" is the key Lol.When I saw Mosley coming up,I could not stand him at all,Too flashy,big cheesy smile,fleet of foot (I thought),allll the constant Hype and declarations of him being "The next this,the next that" ,etc.After the Rivera fight....That all changed and I was on board.

as for Margarito.I first saw him live Vs.Rodney Jones in a loss and that was all she wrote...even in a loss.Then he went in with on & off power hitter Ankamah who was being pushed hard in promotions and Margarito pulverized him.Been a solid fan ever sinse.Win, lose, or draw...no part timer here

After Mosley schooled ODLH, I became his loyal fan. I can still remember it though it happened 8 years ago.

Its a great thing,anytime you can do a 180 on a fighter.Better yet is seeing a fighters career from jump off and being able to say...."I saw it live" and followed him throughout.Sort of feels like a culmination.It gets more difficult as you go and the longer you follow the sport with the ones that have literally hung around too long from when You first started following them.I'm there right now with Holyfield and almost there with Hopkins You remember where you were when it was all gravy and what was going on with there careers.You can not live on yesterdays alone Lol. Now you think.....ahh come on man,call it a career already !!

yeah man. I thought Hopkins was unbeatable after beating Tito. Hopkins was the underdog in that fight and he handled Tito very well.

[brucelee]

This thread might as well be applied to our very own Manny PACMAN Pacquiao who'm back in 2003 was considered a flash in a pan. His win over Barera was considered a fluke and his loss to Erik Morales reduced him to a "Gatekeeper" I remembered somebody in this forum said he might become.
I can't believe it has been almost 6 years that Pacfans like me have been defending our Hero here and elsewhere(my sign up date here shows that).
In that 6 years PAC made some of you a believer. Some like him already just hates his fans but regardless PAC's impact in the sport cannot be denied.

Yes, I can remember the days when I was defending Pac in this forum after he defeated Barrera. Many were saying then that it was Barrera's off night. Some even said,"who is Manny Pac? He just got lucky". But we, Pacfans knew very well that time that it was Pac's time to shine. Can we be blamed for being die hard fans? WE were the first recognize his talents. Just like CMM had said (let me paraphrased him)....... it brings pride in us to have hurdled so many oppositions and critics against our fighter.

Am just happy that I don't have to debate anymore about Pac.

[Pavlik]

This thread might as well be applied to our very own Manny PACMAN Pacquiao who'm back in 2003 was considered a flash in a pan. His win over Barera was considered a fluke and his loss to Erik Morales reduced him to a "Gatekeeper" I remembered somebody in this forum said he might become.
I can't believe it has been almost 6 years that Pacfans like me have been defending our Hero here and elsewhere(my sign up date here shows that).
In that 6 years PAC made some of you a believer. Some like him already just hates his fans but regardless PAC's impact in the sport cannot be denied.

Yes, I can remember the days when I was defending Pac in this forum after he defeated Barrera. Many were saying then that it was Barrera's off night. Some even said,"who is Manny Pac? He just got lucky". But we, Pacfans knew very well that time that it was Pac's time to shine. Can we be blamed for being die hard fans? WE were the first recognize his talents. Just like CMM had said (let me paraphrased him)....... it brings pride in us to have hurdled so many oppositions and critics against our fighter.

Am just happy that I don't have to debate anymore about Pac.

Yup, that is why I just take most comments about PAC with a grain of salt, and Mang Tomas Take care Pare!!

[CutMeMick]

Im not sure many people watching Cotto in his 140 days realised he would turn out to be a monster.

Of course no one REALLY new this but there was def. a couple of us who believed it.

[Markusdarkus]

Im not sure many people watching Cotto in his 140 days realised he would turn out to be a monster.

Of course no one REALLY new this but there was def. a couple of us who believed it.

Maybe people of PR decent and die hard fans.

Im not sure even the most knowlegable boxing fans thought he would be this good.

I mean he outboxed Shane Mosley nobody see that coming and he isnt known to be a boxer, in the purist terms.

[brucelee]

This thread might as well be applied to our very own Manny PACMAN Pacquiao who'm back in 2003 was considered a flash in a pan. His win over Barera was considered a fluke and his loss to Erik Morales reduced him to a "Gatekeeper" I remembered somebody in this forum said he might become.
I can't believe it has been almost 6 years that Pacfans like me have been defending our Hero here and elsewhere(my sign up date here shows that).
In that 6 years PAC made some of you a believer. Some like him already just hates his fans but regardless PAC's impact in the sport cannot be denied.

Yes, I can remember the days when I was defending Pac in this forum after he defeated Barrera. Many were saying then that it was Barrera's off night. Some even said,"who is Manny Pac? He just got lucky". But we, Pacfans knew very well that time that it was Pac's time to shine. Can we be blamed for being die hard fans? WE were the first recognize his talents. Just like CMM had said (let me paraphrased him)....... it brings pride in us to have hurdled so many oppositions and critics against our fighter.

Am just happy that I don't have to debate anymore about Pac.

Yup, that is why I just take most comments about PAC with a grain of salt, and Mang Tomas Take care Pare!!

Ingat din pare. Hope we see each other in Manila in the future. Are you a sports/boxing journalist or analyst?

[Pavlik]

Yes, I can remember the days when I was defending Pac in this forum after he defeated Barrera. Many were saying then that it was Barrera's off night. Some even said,"who is Manny Pac? He just got lucky". But we, Pacfans knew very well that time that it was Pac's time to shine. Can we be blamed for being die hard fans? WE were the first recognize his talents. Just like CMM had said (let me paraphrased him)....... it brings pride in us to have hurdled so many oppositions and critics against our fighter.

Am just happy that I don't have to debate anymore about Pac.

Yup, that is why I just take most comments about PAC with a grain of salt, and Mang Tomas Take care Pare!!

Ingat din pare. Hope we see each other in Manila in the future. Are you a sports/boxing journalist or analyst?

No pre just a casual boxing fan. Ingat's Prati

[Andre]

Yes, I can remember the days when I was defending Pac in this forum after he defeated Barrera. Many were saying then that it was Barrera's off night. Some even said,"who is Manny Pac? He just got lucky". But we, Pacfans knew very well that time that it was Pac's time to shine. Can we be blamed for being die hard fans? WE were the first recognize his talents. Just like CMM had said (let me paraphrased him)....... it brings pride in us to have hurdled so many oppositions and critics against our fighter.

Am just happy that I don't have to debate anymore about Pac.

Yup, that is why I just take most comments about PAC with a grain of salt, and Mang Tomas Take care Pare!!

Ingat din pare. Hope we see each other in Manila in the future. Are you a sports/boxing journalist or analyst?

What will you be wearing?

[brucelee]

Yup, that is why I just take most comments about PAC with a grain of salt, and Mang Tomas Take care Pare!!

Ingat din pare. Hope we see each other in Manila in the future. Are you a sports/boxing journalist or analyst?

What will you be wearing?

will red bikini do?

[Doot]

I remember thinking Cotto would fade away and Bojado would be the one to tear through the ranks.