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    Quote Originally Posted by LEGION View Post
    I can see Tony getting stopped only with some good body work.

    Cotto won't headhunt Tony and get a ko; Tony walked through Cintron's bombs like they were no more pesky than a fly buzzing around.

    Don't think Cotto has Cintron's power; but he can get that body well. Only problem is that if he tries consistently to fight Tony on the inside he will be susceptible to some big punishment from Tony, IMO. I see Cotto playing it smart and boxing all night on the outside; no way he gets into Tony's type fight.

    Either Tony wins by ko or Cotto will decisively beat him on points; hoping on the former.
    I think Cotto will be fine on the inside. Cotto has much faster hands and feet (though he doesn't use his footspeed much) then Margarito and I think he can afford to go inside with Margarito and beat Margarito to the punch with shorter, faster punches. I would be worried about Margarito's uppercut on the inside since that is his best punch and Cotto has eaten uppercuts in the past.

    Damn it I can not wait for this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by LEGION View Post
    I can see Tony getting stopped only with some good body work.

    Cotto won't headhunt Tony and get a ko; Tony walked through Cintron's bombs like they were no more pesky than a fly buzzing around.

    Don't think Cotto has Cintron's power; but he can get that body well. Only problem is that if he tries consistently to fight Tony on the inside he will be susceptible to some big punishment from Tony, IMO. I see Cotto playing it smart and boxing all night on the outside; no way he gets into Tony's type fight.

    Either Tony wins by ko or Cotto will decisively beat him on points; hoping on the former.
    I think Cotto will be fine on the inside. Cotto has much faster hands and feet (though he doesn't use his footspeed much) then Margarito and I think he can afford to go inside with Margarito and beat Margarito to the punch with shorter, faster punches. I would be worried about Margarito's uppercut on the inside since that is his best punch and Cotto has eaten uppercuts in the past.

    Damn it I can not wait for this.

    I think Marg is by far the biggest fighter Cotto has ever faced he is also the biggest puncher and best inside fighter Cotto has fought. He also has a chin of iron and a will to land shots no matter how many he takes, now that is a scarey fighter and you dont want to fight the beast at his own game. Marg is huge and i can see Cottos shots bouncing off now i cant say the same if Marg started landing on Cotto.

    You dont fight to a guys strength esp when you can box as well as Cotto i mean he outboxed Mosley.

    Margs only hope is on the inside imo i think Cotto will try and remove that chance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by LEGION View Post
    I can see Tony getting stopped only with some good body work.

    Cotto won't headhunt Tony and get a ko; Tony walked through Cintron's bombs like they were no more pesky than a fly buzzing around.

    Don't think Cotto has Cintron's power; but he can get that body well. Only problem is that if he tries consistently to fight Tony on the inside he will be susceptible to some big punishment from Tony, IMO. I see Cotto playing it smart and boxing all night on the outside; no way he gets into Tony's type fight.

    Either Tony wins by ko or Cotto will decisively beat him on points; hoping on the former.
    I think Cotto will be fine on the inside. Cotto has much faster hands and feet (though he doesn't use his footspeed much) then Margarito and I think he can afford to go inside with Margarito and beat Margarito to the punch with shorter, faster punches. I would be worried about Margarito's uppercut on the inside since that is his best punch and Cotto has eaten uppercuts in the past.

    Damn it I can not wait for this.
    I agree on that Amat...............

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markusdarkus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by amat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by LEGION View Post
    I can see Tony getting stopped only with some good body work.

    Cotto won't headhunt Tony and get a ko; Tony walked through Cintron's bombs like they were no more pesky than a fly buzzing around.

    Don't think Cotto has Cintron's power; but he can get that body well. Only problem is that if he tries consistently to fight Tony on the inside he will be susceptible to some big punishment from Tony, IMO. I see Cotto playing it smart and boxing all night on the outside; no way he gets into Tony's type fight.

    Either Tony wins by ko or Cotto will decisively beat him on points; hoping on the former.
    I think Cotto will be fine on the inside. Cotto has much faster hands and feet (though he doesn't use his footspeed much) then Margarito and I think he can afford to go inside with Margarito and beat Margarito to the punch with shorter, faster punches. I would be worried about Margarito's uppercut on the inside since that is his best punch and Cotto has eaten uppercuts in the past.

    Damn it I can not wait for this.

    I think Marg is by far the biggest fighter Cotto has ever faced he is also the biggest puncher and best inside fighter Cotto has fought. He also has a chin of iron and a will to land shots no matter how many he takes, now that is a scarey fighter and you dont want to fight the beast at his own game. Marg is huge and i can see Cottos shots bouncing off now i cant say the same if Marg started landing on Cotto.

    You dont fight to a guys strength esp when you can box as well as Cotto i mean he outboxed Mosley.

    Margs only hope is on the inside imo i think Cotto will try and remove that chance.
    OK, Margarito isn't the Terminator. If you are conceding that Cotto can land first on the inside, there is no way he is just going to let shots bounce off him. He's a human being, they are going to have an effect.

    Margarito's best punch might be his overhand right, a punch that lands from the outside. If Margarito is the one pressing forward, then I agree it's probably not a good idea to stand inside. But if Cotto can press forward or they trade toe to toe, it's not a bad idea at all to go inside where is the faster puncher by a lot. Also, it'll be difficult for Cotto to get any body work done outside which I think is key for this fight.

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    I agree with Amat and have said this for a while, I don't think Cotto has to or should box and move all night, Cotto does a good job of mixing it up, pressing, fighting on the inside, and boxing and moving. I think he should stick to that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Markusdarkus View Post
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    I think Cotto will be fine on the inside. Cotto has much faster hands and feet (though he doesn't use his footspeed much) then Margarito and I think he can afford to go inside with Margarito and beat Margarito to the punch with shorter, faster punches. I would be worried about Margarito's uppercut on the inside since that is his best punch and Cotto has eaten uppercuts in the past.

    Damn it I can not wait for this.

    I think Marg is by far the biggest fighter Cotto has ever faced he is also the biggest puncher and best inside fighter Cotto has fought. He also has a chin of iron and a will to land shots no matter how many he takes, now that is a scarey fighter and you dont want to fight the beast at his own game. Marg is huge and i can see Cottos shots bouncing off now i cant say the same if Marg started landing on Cotto.

    You dont fight to a guys strength esp when you can box as well as Cotto i mean he outboxed Mosley.

    Margs only hope is on the inside imo i think Cotto will try and remove that chance.
    OK, Margarito isn't the Terminator. If you are conceding that Cotto can land first on the inside, there is no way he is just going to let shots bounce off him. He's a human being, they are going to have an effect.

    Margarito's best punch might be his overhand right, a punch that lands from the outside. If Margarito is the one pressing forward, then I agree it's probably not a good idea to stand inside. But if Cotto can press forward or they trade toe to toe, it's not a bad idea at all to go inside where is the faster puncher by a lot. Also, it'll be difficult for Cotto to get any body work done outside which I think is key for this fight.

    Margs best chance is to draw Cotto in he cannot outbox Cotto.

    Marg game is in fighting so you box him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julius Rain View Post
    p.s. to macho and other cotto fan- for man law sake tell cotto to pull his pants up his damn pubes are starting to show
    HELL NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    The lower the better!!!!!!!

    And those aren't pubes Julius, it's a tattoo, one that I wish that I could see completely!

    You have to give me this one thing guys, you're always posting pics of hot girls on here, so just let me have my Miguel, and his low riding pants please.

    Pics like this can drive a girl crazy!!!!

    For the love of God Miguel, keep them low, keep them low!


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    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jesse James View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Macho View Post
    Cotto will KO Margaro in round 5 or 6

    I really have to question how you come to this conclusion. Cotto took 11 rounds to KO weak-willed Judah, it took him 6 rounds to TKO C-level Gomez, he couldn't hurt Mosley, but you think he will KO Tony in 5 rounds? Come on dude, I'm not trying to rip you, but let's be realistic.....
    Judah was anything BUT weak-willed in that fight.
    Gomez may have looked C-level against Cotto, but I think that's more a testament to Cotto's greatness than Gomez's mediocrity.
    Mosley's not that easy to hurt (unless you're the tall and rangy Vernon Forrest). ODLH couldn't do it, and he's a bit bigger than Cotto.

    All that being said, I don't see an early KO by Cotto. It'll be a give-and-take, grinding battle, with Cotto wearing Tony out to the body and stopping him in the late rounds.
    Sorry to nit-pick but Mosley wasn't hurt in that fight.
    Mosley even noted after the fight that Cotto had a suprising lack of 'pop' in his punches.

    Sorry
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimafee View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
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    I really have to question how you come to this conclusion. Cotto took 11 rounds to KO weak-willed Judah, it took him 6 rounds to TKO C-level Gomez, he couldn't hurt Mosley, but you think he will KO Tony in 5 rounds? Come on dude, I'm not trying to rip you, but let's be realistic.....
    Judah was anything BUT weak-willed in that fight.
    Gomez may have looked C-level against Cotto, but I think that's more a testament to Cotto's greatness than Gomez's mediocrity.
    Mosley's not that easy to hurt (unless you're the tall and rangy Vernon Forrest). ODLH couldn't do it, and he's a bit bigger than Cotto.

    All that being said, I don't see an early KO by Cotto. It'll be a give-and-take, grinding battle, with Cotto wearing Tony out to the body and stopping him in the late rounds.
    Sorry to nit-pick but Mosley wasn't hurt in that fight.
    Mosley even noted after the fight that Cotto had a suprising lack of 'pop' in his punches.

    Sorry
    Did you READ what I wrote? Jesse James wrote that Cotto hadn't hurt Mosley. I answered that Mosley isn't easily hurt (except for his near KO loss to Vernon Forrest). I said even ODLH couldn't do it, and he's bigger than Cotto.

    So where in there do you see me saying that Cotto had hurt Mosley?


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    My prediction for this fight is that these forums are going to get so crowded Saturday, like Hatton/Mayweather crowded.

    Can this new server handle it? Lets keep our fingers crossed.


    As for the fight, I'm leaning towards Cotto, but he has to fight very very smart. Margarito will be right there like a windmill all night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jimafee View Post
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    Judah was anything BUT weak-willed in that fight.
    Gomez may have looked C-level against Cotto, but I think that's more a testament to Cotto's greatness than Gomez's mediocrity.
    Mosley's not that easy to hurt (unless you're the tall and rangy Vernon Forrest). ODLH couldn't do it, and he's a bit bigger than Cotto.

    All that being said, I don't see an early KO by Cotto. It'll be a give-and-take, grinding battle, with Cotto wearing Tony out to the body and stopping him in the late rounds.
    Sorry to nit-pick but Mosley wasn't hurt in that fight.
    Mosley even noted after the fight that Cotto had a suprising lack of 'pop' in his punches.

    Sorry
    Did you READ what I wrote? Jesse James wrote that Cotto hadn't hurt Mosley. I answered that Mosley isn't easily hurt (except for his near KO loss to Vernon Forrest). I said even ODLH couldn't do it, and he's bigger than Cotto.

    So where in there do you see me saying that Cotto had hurt Mosley?

    I wish i had an answer for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markusdarkus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Macho View Post
    Cotto will KO Margaro in round 5 or 6 , he will not going outbox Margaro , could counter punches , but he cant outbox by his short reach , he need to impose the fight in certain way aggressive since the beginning , he has to stop Margaro and avoid get pressure by Margaro .................
    Cotto trained for a real brawl , he knows that Margaro like that and Cotto will show him what he likes...................


    You can bet your life Cotto will box Marg he has the boxing skill and speed to box him.

    Cotto is not silly enough to get drawn in, if he is there is only one winner imo.
    I thought that was the case when he fought Torres aswell.

    Luckily the ref let him low blow his way out of trouble that night.


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    Spreading the Good Word on all the Cotto V. Margarito threads....

    Hearing all the Tony haters is getting old, even if (a big if) he loses he is gonna die in that ring. This man has been waiting and been ducked for a long time and you think he's gonna go in there and just roll over.

    Everyone in here must be a Rocky fan, and I can already see Tony telling his wife/trainer/mother/passed away brother "To beat me, he's gonna have to kill me, and to do that he's gonna have to be willing to die himself"...was Rocky really Mexican and not Italian? Cuz that has Mexican fighter written all over it.

    I dont doubt Cotto is willing to war, he has been in some, but I dont know he's willing to die. The countdown said it perfectly, between Mexican and Puerto Rican fighters and fans the big differance is that Puerto Ricans are allowed to box alittle more...let me translate that for you, when Tony takes Cotto's shots and keeps moving forward, Cotto will run/box (ill use those interchangeably), hell Cotto ran against Mosley an old Mosley, a Mosley that wanted nothing to do with Antonio Margarito!

    Yes Cotto can out box Margo, but try boxing when you have a Tornado of well over 1000 punches a fight after you. Shit the most specialized, highly trained, super killers in any armed forces would succumb to shear volume of enemies after them, why do you think this will be different, ya Cotto will out box him, but Tony will outwork him. Tony has one of the highest stamina levels in the WW division. His production/workrate is wayyyyyy out of the norm for a Cotto opponent.

    Cotto's higher level of boxing technique and ability will allow him to land many shots to the body and face, granted. What is he gonna do when he faces a man who takes bombs to the grill (Cintron) and laughs at him. Could he have stood up to those bombs? Could he have walked through it and f***ing laughed!

    Yes Yes we're all mystified by the strong silent cotto who never smiles, keeps his composure in every situation, pushes the smaller man around and keeps moving forward, very imressive. BE afraid of the guy that laughs in your face, beats your ass, and begs you to get up so he can continue to whoop your ass some more.

    Make no doubt about it my friends we are in for a classic, and I give all the respect in the world to Cotto for his ability, athleticism, and dedication to his craft he is one of my favorite fighters, and with this post I am not saying that Tony has it in the bag or anything close to that, a part of me is afraid for Saturday to get here. We all seen the soft underbelly of Antonio Margarito on the Countdown, and no matter how badass you are, you must have felt his pain over the loss of his brother, and if he doesnt win this weekend who knows what that might do to him, a loss here would be hard, so I worry for him.

    But do not discount Tony because he will die in there. He will put it all out there for himself, his family, his country, and his fans and even if he doesnt pull it off this weekend, he will show more heart in defeat than Cotto can in Victory. He will have more fans than ever before. I know many of you know this to be true, Margo fans or not. He's gonna shock many, including his own fans and followers. Spread some rep if you believe it too. Not for me, but just to back up my man Margo.

    Oh and when all you haters/non-believers change your minds, theres plenty of room on this band wagon, welcome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ono View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Markusdarkus View Post
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    Cotto will KO Margaro in round 5 or 6 , he will not going outbox Margaro , could counter punches , but he cant outbox by his short reach , he need to impose the fight in certain way aggressive since the beginning , he has to stop Margaro and avoid get pressure by Margaro .................
    Cotto trained for a real brawl , he knows that Margaro like that and Cotto will show him what he likes...................


    You can bet your life Cotto will box Marg he has the boxing skill and speed to box him.

    Cotto is not silly enough to get drawn in, if he is there is only one winner imo.
    I thought that was the case when he fought Torres aswell.

    Luckily the ref let him low blow his way out of trouble that night.


    I hope they make Cotto wear his trunks that low while fighting. For Marge to get a low blow it will have to be at his knees.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macho View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Macho View Post
    Cotto will KO Margaro in round 5 or 6 , he will not going outbox Margaro , could counter punches , but he cant outbox by his short reach , he need to impose the fight in certain way aggressive since the beginning , he has to stop Margaro and avoid get pressure by Margaro .................
    Cotto trained for a real brawl , he knows that Margaro like that and Cotto will show him what he likes...................


    Macho you know your my boy and I have nothing but the ut-most respect for you but I really have to ask why in the world do you think Margarito gets stopped? I can see maybe him losing this fight () but stopped?

    No one stops Tony,,,
    Hey Daxx , don't get me wrong my friend , i don't want anybody misunderstand me , i just gave my opinion , probably all think that I'm crazy , but i don't , i respect your opinion that think Cotto cant stop Margaro like to everybody , but Why not ?........if Cotto got a real good training , Why not ?.........we never cant underestimate that possibility Daxx , also Margaro could stop Cotto and i never doubt on that.............

    The only way that i can see this fight Cotto winning by UD , is if he wear out Margaro in the latest round and avoid him to put pressure , probably we could see an UD , but man Daxx if you know Margaro , he never give up and Cotto either , they will put everything inside the Ring , that's why i make the conclusion that this will going end by KO or stoppage , i made my explanation in my previous post, probably looks like that I'm speculating too much , but i don't think so.................

    By the way , i think that we have to wait for see how this fight will going start , they must have their strategies in how they will impose the fight ...............................Lets see Daxx..

    We will just have to wait til Saturday for our answers......I said it before I am rooting for Tony but will not be disappointed if Cotto wins....They are #1 and #2 either way in the division and I am fans of both.....

    As for the KO I stand by what I said...No way Cotto KO's Tony....I'll be here Saturday thougfh for some RbR
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