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    Default Re: Jesse Jackson wants to cut Obama's nuts off

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    He has more experience than Obama, he's not going to tax the crap out of anyone, the capital gains tax will stay the same everyone knows the big economic boom we had under the Clinton years were helped a ton by #1 The .Com boom, #2 Welfare Reform (as done by the Republican Congress) #3 the cut in capital gains tax from 28% to 20%.

    His great experience told him it would be a good idea to invade Iraq, and the US then invaded and got its arse handed to it by the Iranians. Obama thought invading Iraq would be a bad idea. So probably better to go for the guy with limited experience but a habit of getting the big decisions right.

    McCain and the GOP will indeed tax the crap out of you. They've been increasing middle/low income people's share of the overall tax burden every year they've been in power since Reagan in 1980. Clinton reversed this a little but Bush reversed the reverse, leaving low/middle incomes with their biggest-ever share of the total tax burden in modern history. McCain will ramp up Bush's rob-the-poor-to-give-to-the-rich policies. Clinton's economic growth was done by balancing the budget which created the biggest investment boom in history,a boom that saw 22 million jobs created and the biggest-ever (Reagan/Bush 41) deficit turned into a huge surplus. Bush's boom was with borrowed money and failed disastrously, ruining the economy and creating less than five million jobs, record inflation, negligible investment. All while turning a surplus of hundreds of billions of dollars a year into record deficits. Clinton's boom produced tangible economic growth, far bigger GDP growth than under Bush41/43/Reagan all while cutting the deficits they'd built up and turning them into a surplus. The dotcom bubble only affected a small number of people with capital to invest and was not of Clinton's making. The Bush housing bubble is screwing Middle America, everybody who owns a home and was of Bush's making. Obama will actually cut taxes on low/middle income earners and rightly so. It's the only way the US economy can get going in the long term.

    Capital gains tax is paid by people with actual investments, the top-earning couple of percent of the country. Cutting the tax only increases their income, has no bearing on the actual economy. It's a tax the elite pay a lot of because their income is inherited and not earned, so cutting it is a regressive step, a step away from rewarding hard work and enterprise and a step towards more handouts for moneyed elites and inherited wealth.

    Only a small number of super-rich GOP people want capital gains to be cut and get the journalists that work for media outlets they own to push for cuts. Where did you read stuff about cutting capital gains being a good idea? Did you know that if you're really wealthy and can afford tax lawyers to deal with the IRS for you you can get all your income declared long-term capital gains and pay only 15% tax? That's only slightly more than you pay in payroll taxes, another tax that falls mainly on low/middle income earners. Payroll tax falls on the first $95000 of yearly income only, so if you earn ten million you still only pay the same payroll taxes as somebody who earns $95k. Why does no GOP politician ever call for a cut in payroll taxes, hmmm?

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    uh huh....if McCain's advice was heeded earlier Iraq would have been an easier task.

    Obama has been a Senator since 2005 but I guess he has more experience from being a "community organizer" ....that's what America needs...CHANGE and a Community Organizer leading us....suddenly we're all a bunch of fucking panhandlers....thanks but no thanks

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    Default Re: Jesse Jackson wants to cut Obama's nuts off

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    uh huh....if McCain's advice was heeded earlier Iraq would have been an easier task.

    Obama has been a Senator since 2005 but I guess he has more experience from being a "community organizer" ....that's what America needs...CHANGE and a Community Organizer leading us....suddenly we're all a bunch of fucking panhandlers....thanks but no thanks
    McCain's advice was to invade Iraq and no matter what advice McCain gave the US would still have ended having to hand over Iraq to the Iranians. On the single-biggest foreign policy decision of the last generation McCain got it dead wrong.

    I notice you avoided the rest of the post. You really don't have any good reason to vote for McCain when you're forced to look at things objectively, do you?

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    McCain has taken chances with his career in order to solve problems affecting the citizens....Obama has done NOTHING he hasn't proposed any good legislation he hasn't taken a firm stand on anything AND stuff he did take a stand on before he has changed his views on like the FISA bill.


    Kirkland you give me no reasons to vote for Obama either

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    Default Re: Jesse Jackson wants to cut Obama's nuts off

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    McCain has taken chances with his career in order to solve problems affecting the citizens....Obama has done NOTHING he hasn't proposed any good legislation he hasn't taken a firm stand on anything AND stuff he did take a stand on before he has changed his views on like the FISA bill.


    Kirkland you give me no reasons to vote for Obama either
    I already explained to you how Obama will be far better for the economy than McCain. I don't think he'll have the courage to take unpopular decisions and moral clairty of a Jimmy Carter on the economy, but he'll be far better than McCain. MCain means existing economic problems will be exacerbated, Obama will try and repair some of the damage.


    And also far better on foreign policy. That's probably why McCain is changing his foreign policy positions to pretty much the same as Obama's after previously saying Obama was wrong.

    Obama would also be better on energy too. America's number one concern is energy independence. Obama would be far better on this too.

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    OK so Obama not knowing anything about foreign relations is a plus, Obama wants to raise taxes like a motherfucker (whilst cutting Corporate taxes) and will get America to be energy independent without drilling for oil here AND without nuclear energy........You know what Kirkland, I like to dream too

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    Default Re: Jesse Jackson wants to cut Obama's nuts off

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    OK so Obama not knowing anything about foreign relations is a plus, Obama wants to raise taxes like a motherfucker (whilst cutting Corporate taxes) and will get America to be energy independent without drilling for oil here AND without nuclear energy........You know what Kirkland, I like to dream too

    Obama will be far better than McCain. I'm not saying he's going to be Jimmy Carter or anything but he'll definitely be better than the alternative.

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