Jesse Jackson wants to cut Obama's nuts off

[Kirkland Laing]

uh huh....if McCain's advice was heeded earlier Iraq would have been an easier task.

Obama has been a Senator since 2005 but I guess he has more experience from being a "community organizer" ....that's what America needs...CHANGE and a Community Organizer leading us....suddenly we're all a bunch of fucking panhandlers....thanks but no thanks

McCain's advice was to invade Iraq and no matter what advice McCain gave the US would still have ended having to hand over Iraq to the Iranians. On the single-biggest foreign policy decision of the last generation McCain got it dead wrong.

I notice you avoided the rest of the post. You really don't have any good reason to vote for McCain when you're forced to look at things objectively, do you?

[El Kabong]

McCain has taken chances with his career in order to solve problems affecting the citizens....Obama has done NOTHING he hasn't proposed any good legislation he hasn't taken a firm stand on anything AND stuff he did take a stand on before he has changed his views on like the FISA bill.


Kirkland you give me no reasons to vote for Obama either

[Kirkland Laing]

McCain has taken chances with his career in order to solve problems affecting the citizens....Obama has done NOTHING he hasn't proposed any good legislation he hasn't taken a firm stand on anything AND stuff he did take a stand on before he has changed his views on like the FISA bill.


Kirkland you give me no reasons to vote for Obama either

I already explained to you how Obama will be far better for the economy than McCain. I don't think he'll have the courage to take unpopular decisions and moral clairty of a Jimmy Carter on the economy, but he'll be far better than McCain. MCain means existing economic problems will be exacerbated, Obama will try and repair some of the damage.


And also far better on foreign policy. That's probably why McCain is changing his foreign policy positions to pretty much the same as Obama's after previously saying Obama was wrong.

Obama would also be better on energy too. America's number one concern is energy independence. Obama would be far better on this too.

[El Kabong]

OK so Obama not knowing anything about foreign relations is a plus, Obama wants to raise taxes like a motherfucker (whilst cutting Corporate taxes) and will get America to be energy independent without drilling for oil here AND without nuclear energy........You know what Kirkland, I like to dream too

[Kirkland Laing]

OK so Obama not knowing anything about foreign relations is a plus, Obama wants to raise taxes like a motherfucker (whilst cutting Corporate taxes) and will get America to be energy independent without drilling for oil here AND without nuclear energy........You know what Kirkland, I like to dream too

Obama will be far better than McCain. I'm not saying he's going to be Jimmy Carter or anything but he'll definitely be better than the alternative.

[El Kabong]

....did you think Jimmy Carter was a good President? If you do, you've lost any and all credibility in this arguement as Jimmy Carter was (aside from Herbert Hoover) the WORST President ever...it was the American public's bad judgement because Nixon (who was aside from Watergate a pretty good President) and Ford (another decent President only he was percieved as an idiot just because he fell down a lot) were percieved as bad guys and America wanted a "nice guy" to be President and we got one and his name was Jimmy Carter and he SUCKED ass!

[Kirkland Laing]

....did you think Jimmy Carter was a good President? If you do, you've lost any and all credibility in this arguement as Jimmy Carter was (aside from Herbert Hoover) the WORST President ever...it was the American public's bad judgement because Nixon (who was aside from Watergate a pretty good President) and Ford (another decent President only he was percieved as an idiot just because he fell down a lot) were percieved as bad guys and America wanted a "nice guy" to be President and we got one and his name was Jimmy Carter and he SUCKED ass!

Jimmy Carter inherited double digit inflation and high unemployment, a collapsing dollar due to a foreign war and soaring oil prices in an economy much more dependent on cheap oil than the one today. He knew the only thing to bring oil prices down and kill inflation was to appoint a Fed chief that would raise interest rates dramatically, to basically engineer a recession, to drive inflation out of the economy. Electoral suicide but the right thing to do, the thing a moral and courageous national leader would do. And he did it.

Now look at the situation today. Faced with the same problems, the US needs somebody to get a grip on the current problems. McCain would cut huge chunks of tax for the nation's elites, causing bigger deficits and no economic growth. He'd have to print more dollars to cover the deficits which means increased inflation and consequently big increases in the price of the commodity most sensitive to Washington's print button, oil. And big increases in the oil price mean big increases in the price of goods and services which mean more inflation.....


Obama would probably make a reasonable attempt at tackling the problem. He'll have to contend with conservatives screaming for tax cuts for the wealthy as the only way to save the economy, but he can remind them how they reacted when Clinton raised taxes on the wealthy to balance the budget :

"I want to predict here tonight, that if we adopt this bill the American economy is going to get weaker and not stronger, the deficit four years from today will be higher than it is today and not lower ... When all is said and done, people will pay more taxes, the economy will create fewer jobs, the government will spend more money, and the American people will be worse off."

That was one of McCain's chief economic advisors in 1993.

[Kirkland Laing]

And Lyle, drilling for oil.

If the US drilled ANWR tomorrow then in 5-10 years it would start producing. But the maximum it could produce daily would be 750 000 barrels a day, or roughly 20% of the projected increase in US oil demand between now and 10 years' time. Domestic drilling is just a diversion by the GOP that also helps the balance sheets of oil companies. It's irrelevant to the overarching energy issue.

[El Kabong]

Well if we're going to have to wait for it then all the more reason to start right now AND we need more refineries and that will drop the price of oil.


Natural gas is also something we need more of and we could drill for that as well.


Global Warming (supposedly) isn't going to dramatically affect us for 10-20 years so why worry? Want to rethink your reasoning now?