Grrr Danny Williams

[Bomp]

Totally agree wtih everything Bilbo says except for the dislocated shoulder thing , that was pretty gutsy for 3 rounds with such an obvious injury.

Williams is OK with a good dig and zero footwork, always has been and always will be. I get waht Bilbo is saying about the bullshit hype, cos I can't think of a single fight where he's actually reached this mythical 'on his day'.

[Kev]

Totally agree wtih everything Bilbo says except for the dislocated shoulder thing , that was pretty gutsy for 3 rounds with such an obvious injury.

Williams is OK with a good dig and zero footwork, always has been and always will be. I get waht Bilbo is saying about the bullshit hype, cos I can't think of a single fight where he's actually reached this mythical 'on his day'.

Yeah guys don't misunderstand me, I'll credit him for showing guts fighting with a dislocated shoulder. My point is other fighters have fought with as bad or even worse injuries over many more rounds and yet commentators don't harp on about how brave they are whenever they fight.

Like I said Jeff Lacy. When Lacy fought Peter Manfredo I didn't hear Jim Lampley and Max Kellerman tell us how magnificantly brave Lacy was in his fight against Tyskpo where he tore his rotator cuff at the start of the fight and fought the entire rest of the fight with one arm. No they just said he looked crap last time out.

When Arthur Abraham fights the commentators don't tell us he's a hero who battled through most of his first fight with Miranda with his jaw hanging off his face. In fact I've never heard anyone say how brave and heroic Arthur was on that night, instead all they focus on is the point deductions that Miranda suffered.

Yet when Danny fights his fight with Mark Potter is ALWAYS brought up. On Bunce's talk show midweek they even interviewed Danny to ask what he thought about Rahman quitting against James Toney and then once again pointed out how brave and dedicated Danny was in fighting his fight with a dislocated shoulder against Potter.

It just frustrates me, it was 8 years ago and Danny apart from a win over a shot Tyson has never looked good since.

Yet people still will still say how committed and brave he is, and that how on his day he can beat anybody.

No he cant'! On his day he'll lose to any decent opponent who puts up a good fight, that's the truth! He's a decent domestic level fighter roughly on the same par as the Skeltons and McDermott's of this world.

He couldn't beat any of the current heavyweight champs either now or in his mythical prime.

Furthermore he has a history of being lazy and not training for fights, he nearly always switches off during every fight, and sometimes looks to be sleep boxing.

I've nothing against him really I just get so annoyed that he's the heavyweight that all the British commentators love.

They all seem to rate him the highest out of all our domestic heavies and believe on his day that he is world class, this depsite him never producing a world class performace or even beating a world class fighter. In fact every time he's faced a top level fighter he's been knocked out.

Tyson doesn't count, he was shot as we saw against Kevin McBride.

If we had an all fight all British heavyweight title league challenge with Skelton, Harrison, Sprott, Williams, Haye, McDermott and Gammer I'd bet a LOT of money that Williams wouldn't make the top 3.

I imagine most on here would pick Haye, Skelton and Harrison to beat him as well, and lets face it he's inconsistent enough that he could easily lose to the others.

Yet even if that event happened he'd still be praised for his bravery shown in the Potter fight and his win over Tyson.