Wladimir Klitschko vs who everyone else fought

[rjj tszyu]

I just want people's opinions on who Wlad would beat or would be beaten by out of the guys Tyson, Lewis, Holyfield, etc fought to earn their greatness for example:

Donovan Rudduck
Tommy Morrison
Frank Bruno
Mitch Green
James Tillis
James Smith
David Tua
Shannon Briggs
Tony Tucker
Hasim Rahman
Michael Moorer
Andrew Golota
Michael Dokes
Pinklon Thomas
Michael Spinks
Renoldo Snipes
Tim Witherspoon
Trevor Berbick

I'm just curious to what everyone thinks

Of them I honestly think he would beat Berbick, Snipes, Maybe Pinklon and Dokes, Golota, Rahman, Maybe Tucker, Briggs, Tillis, Green, Bruno. The rest I think would have beaten Wlad In their heydays. Also i'm not the biggest Tyson fan by the way as barring a very old Larry Holmes every other LEGEND he fought beat him.

[Dark Lord Al]

He beats pretty much all of those guys

[Tysonbruno]

I would go with Ruddock,Bruno,Witherspoon,Briggs and perhaps Tua to beat him he beats the rest but i would give berbick,tucker,Golota and Morrison a chance.

[El Kabong]

I know about Tyson....he did fight Spinks who was a great fighter but only at lightheavyweight.


So the guys you have beating Wlad are: Rudduck, Morrison, Tua, Smith, Witherspoon, and Moorer.

I see Wlad only having trouble with a prime Shannon Briggs because he was big he could take a punch and was active in the ring.

[rjj tszyu]

I know about Tyson....he did fight Spinks who was a great fighter but only at lightheavyweight.


So the guys you have beating Wlad are: Rudduck, Morrison, Tua, Smith, Witherspoon, and Moorer.

I see Wlad only having trouble with a prime Shannon Briggs because he was big he could take a punch and was active in the ring.

Yeah I think he'd easily outbox Shannon though. Straightforward fight for Wlad. To me he would struggle with a smaller heavy thats always in his face.

[p4pking]

I know about Tyson....he did fight Spinks who was a great fighter but only at lightheavyweight.


So the guys you have beating Wlad are: Rudduck, Morrison, Tua, Smith, Witherspoon, and Moorer.

I see Wlad only having trouble with a prime Shannon Briggs because he was big he could take a punch and was active in the ring.

If you are talking on their best form, I'm actually not sure Wlad would beat any of those guys cept for perhaps Smith, Rudduck or Moorer could be pick ems. No way Wlad would beat a prime Tua or even Morrison though imo, he just cant handle that can't of firepower, he's to rigid and limited. Honestly you overrate him so much it's hilarious. You actually think he would have beaten the Tim Witherspoon that fought LArry Holmes?? Your kidding me.

[El Kabong]

If you are talking on their best form, I'm actually not sure Wlad would beat any of those guys cept for perhaps Smith, Rudduck or Moorer could be pick ems. No way Wlad would beat a prime Tua or even Morrison though imo, he just cant handle that can't of firepower, he's to rigid and limited. Honestly you overrate him so much it's hilarious. You actually think he would have beaten the Tim Witherspoon that fought LArry Holmes?? Your kidding me.

Those guys that I mentioned are not considered GREAT fighters and the reason being is that they weren't consistent and could lose at any time.

Tim Witherspoon was 15-0-0 when he squared off vs Holmes. Wlad has something Larry never did and that's punching power! Larry had a record of 42 (28 KO's)-0-0 when he fought Witherspoon. Tim never really fought vs the big time power punchers of his era....I guess Dokes counts but even then it's not on par with what Wlad brings.

David Tua's worst enemy is a jab and movement and Wlad would make him look silly.

Tommy Morrison could be outboxed and out gunned and his stamina was also in question.

I don't think it's overrating Wlad to think that he could beat those fighters, I also want to say those type of guys are kind of what the division has right now.

[The Promoter]

If you are talking on their best form, I'm actually not sure Wlad would beat any of those guys cept for perhaps Smith, Rudduck or Moorer could be pick ems. No way Wlad would beat a prime Tua or even Morrison though imo, he just cant handle that can't of firepower, he's to rigid and limited. Honestly you overrate him so much it's hilarious. You actually think he would have beaten the Tim Witherspoon that fought LArry Holmes?? Your kidding me.

Those guys that I mentioned are not considered GREAT fighters and the reason being is that they weren't consistent and could lose at any time.

Tim Witherspoon was 15-0-0 when he squared off vs Holmes. Wlad has something Larry never did and that's punching power! Larry had a record of 42 (28 KO's)-0-0 when he fought Witherspoon. Tim never really fought vs the big time power punchers of his era....I guess Dokes counts but even then it's not on par with what Wlad brings.

David Tua's worst enemy is a jab and movement and Wlad would make him look silly.

Tommy Morrison could be outboxed and out gunned and his stamina was also in question.

I don't think it's overrating Wlad to think that he could beat those fighters, I also want to say those type of guys are kind of what the division has right now.

Morrison's stamina was at least as good a Wlad's and his pace would have given Wlad fits.....Wlad has terrible movement or at least can't fight for long moving so trying to say that Wlad could expose Tua like LL did is just silly...Wlad would clearly win early then by the 6 or 7th round when he was exhausted and fighting flat footed he'd be wacked out by Tua...

[Spicoli]

I think Morrisons best delivered on the spot Left hook could have badly hurt ANY heavyweight in history Imo but his stamina was at times horrid and emphasized an already thin chin when it wanned. He would have to leap in and assert himself big & early to get to Wlad but I think Wlad could frustrate him quite a bit and often.

[ssss]

If you are talking on their best form, I'm actually not sure Wlad would beat any of those guys cept for perhaps Smith, Rudduck or Moorer could be pick ems. No way Wlad would beat a prime Tua or even Morrison though imo, he just cant handle that can't of firepower, he's to rigid and limited. Honestly you overrate him so much it's hilarious. You actually think he would have beaten the Tim Witherspoon that fought LArry Holmes?? Your kidding me.

Those guys that I mentioned are not considered GREAT fighters and the reason being is that they weren't consistent and could lose at any time.

Tim Witherspoon was 15-0-0 when he squared off vs Holmes. Wlad has something Larry never did and that's punching power! Larry had a record of 42 (28 KO's)-0-0 when he fought Witherspoon. Tim never really fought vs the big time power punchers of his era....I guess Dokes counts but even then it's not on par with what Wlad brings.

David Tua's worst enemy is a jab and movement and Wlad would make him look silly.

Tommy Morrison could be outboxed and out gunned and his stamina was also in question.

I don't think it's overrating Wlad to think that he could beat those fighters, I also want to say those type of guys are kind of what the division has right now.

I disagree Larry Holmes during his championship reign had 14 stoppage wins out of his 20 title defenses and had 7 straight stoppage wins which is the record tied with Joe Louis i don't know why you think Larry Holmes had no punching power but its wrong.

[El Kabong]

I disagree Larry Holmes during his championship reign had 14 stoppage wins out of his 20 title defenses and had 7 straight stoppage wins which is the record tied with Joe Louis i don't know why you think Larry Holmes had no punching power but its wrong.

The streak Holmes went on:
Alfredo Evangilista - later KO'd by a 7-2-1 LEON SPINKS

Osi Ocasio - KO'd 5 times in his career vs pretty good fighters or late in his career BUT had only 13 fights when he fought Holmes

Mike Weaver -18 losses.....12 losses by KO

Lorenzo Zannon - 6 losses 5 losses by KO

Earnie Shavers - Big time power puncher BUT got KO'd 7 times in his career and not to huge punchers or even good fighters sometimes.

Leroy Jones - oddly enough Holmes was the only guy to beat this dude and the only other fighter I recognized on his resume was the aforementioned Mike Weaver whom he decisioned. Other than that he fought "knock off"brand fighters like HARRY Terrell and LARRY Frazier...I don't know if those guys are related to Earnie Terrell or Joe Frazier but I don't think they were claimed by the family after they lost to Leroy.

Scott Ledoux - Scotty got KO'd 7 times in his career as well.



Joe Louis KO'd 7 guys in a row as champion, THREE TIMES during his reign as champion. That my friend is a power puncher!

Larry Holmes as a heavyweight had SOME power but to be a power puncher at heavyweight roughtly every guy you fight has to be KO'd and Larry didn't do that...Larry was a BOXER he boxed and he was damned good at it

[rjj tszyu]

I disagree Larry Holmes during his championship reign had 14 stoppage wins out of his 20 title defenses and had 7 straight stoppage wins which is the record tied with Joe Louis i don't know why you think Larry Holmes had no punching power but its wrong.

The streak Holmes went on:
Alfredo Evangilista - later KO'd by a 7-2-1 LEON SPINKS

Osi Ocasio - KO'd 5 times in his career vs pretty good fighters or late in his career BUT had only 13 fights when he fought Holmes

Mike Weaver -18 losses.....12 losses by KO

Lorenzo Zannon - 6 losses 5 losses by KO

Earnie Shavers - Big time power puncher BUT got KO'd 7 times in his career and not to huge punchers or even good fighters sometimes.

Leroy Jones - oddly enough Holmes was the only guy to beat this dude and the only other fighter I recognized on his resume was the aforementioned Mike Weaver whom he decisioned. Other than that he fought "knock off"brand fighters like HARRY Terrell and LARRY Frazier...I don't know if those guys are related to Earnie Terrell or Joe Frazier but I don't think they were claimed by the family after they lost to Leroy.

Scott Ledoux - Scotty got KO'd 7 times in his career as well.



Joe Louis KO'd 7 guys in a row as champion, THREE TIMES during his reign as champion. That my friend is a power puncher!

Larry Holmes as a heavyweight had SOME power but to be a power puncher at heavyweight roughtly every guy you fight has to be KO'd and Larry didn't do that...Larry was a BOXER he boxed and he was damned good at it

Agreed. Larry had some power but his greatest weapon was probably the greatest Jab in history not a sickening power punch.

[ssss]

I disagree Larry Holmes during his championship reign had 14 stoppage wins out of his 20 title defenses and had 7 straight stoppage wins which is the record tied with Joe Louis i don't know why you think Larry Holmes had no punching power but its wrong.

The streak Holmes went on:
Alfredo Evangilista - later KO'd by a 7-2-1 LEON SPINKS

Osi Ocasio - KO'd 5 times in his career vs pretty good fighters or late in his career BUT had only 13 fights when he fought Holmes

Mike Weaver -18 losses.....12 losses by KO

Lorenzo Zannon - 6 losses 5 losses by KO

Earnie Shavers - Big time power puncher BUT got KO'd 7 times in his career and not to huge punchers or even good fighters sometimes.

Leroy Jones - oddly enough Holmes was the only guy to beat this dude and the only other fighter I recognized on his resume was the aforementioned Mike Weaver whom he decisioned. Other than that he fought "knock off"brand fighters like HARRY Terrell and LARRY Frazier...I don't know if those guys are related to Earnie Terrell or Joe Frazier but I don't think they were claimed by the family after they lost to Leroy.

Scott Ledoux - Scotty got KO'd 7 times in his career as well.



Joe Louis KO'd 7 guys in a row as champion, THREE TIMES during his reign as champion. That my friend is a power puncher!

Larry Holmes as a heavyweight had SOME power but to be a power puncher at heavyweight roughtly every guy you fight has to be KO'd and Larry didn't do that...Larry was a BOXER he boxed and he was damned good at it

Never said Larry Holmes was a puncher i just thought you was underrating his power he could turn a fight around with one punch as he did against Mike Weaver when he was in bad shape one uppercut basically changed the whole fight around and that one punch won the fight for Larry Holmes.