im a pbf fan. and its constint that my friends will tell me who ever there fav fighter is at the time can beat him or diss his fighting style but to me it seems even the people who hate pbf think hes the best or they wouldnt even care who faught him or who he faught suck as andre berto who is undefeated or margo no one is saying of so and so can beat them andre berto because he hasnt faught anyone great but if u ask a floyd hater they will say the same about him and margo because he was kept in the shadows. but if you actually thought your fav fighter was the best then you wouldn't compare him to anyone
not t o cotto now
U make my eyes bleed Plop's
i didnt mean the best fighter in the world but of our era yea i would say he is the best some of the guys he gets no credit for fighting had belts and where good fighters at one point cotto never faught the best of any weight class either and for some one moving in weight so quick he went for the belts but i would exspect some one to say somthing like you just said but your probly also the type to give cotto credit for beating gomez or pac man credit for beating david diaz
Miguel Cotto is 27 and he unlike Floyd has fought Shane Mosley, Antonio Margarito and he KO'd Zab Judah...those are all things Floyd didn't do. And in fighting Margarito he did fight the best at 147 that fight was ultimately for the bragging rights in the division.
I don't really respect the Gomez fight but fighting Carlos Quintana as his first fight at 147 is pretty big. Floyd fought Sharmba Mitchell as his first fight at 147....WEAK...had he done it maybe 5 years earlier then hell yeah it would be worth something but at that point in his career Sharmba was done.
Floyd is a great boxer but he took no chances
Miguel Cotto is 27 and he unlike Floyd has fought Shane Mosley, Antonio Margarito and he KO'd Zab Judah...those are all things Floyd didn't do. And in fighting Margarito he did fight the best at 147 that fight was ultimately for the bragging rights in the division.
I don't really respect the Gomez fight but fighting Carlos Quintana as his first fight at 147 is pretty big. Floyd fought Sharmba Mitchell as his first fight at 147....WEAK...had he done it maybe 5 years earlier then hell yeah it would be worth something but at that point in his career Sharmba was done.
Floyd is a great boxer but he took no chances[/quote]
first point when cotto did fight the best he got beat. as for zab i think floyd was punishing him before the low blow but thats just my imo also zab took cotto to the ninth round after rocking cotto a couple times and if we give cotto credit for beating zab and we give baldomir credit for beating zab y doesn't floyd get credit for that and floyd turned around and beat baldomire no credit for that i dont get it. i been saying this for years alot of guys floyd beats he out classes them so its always floyd doesn't fight the best but then some other guy comes along and beats a guy a year later that pbf beat and they say wow he is great some one please make this make sense to me
like clottey is going to get credit for beating zab but there is some who say he sould be fighting pbf y is he fighting zab and he wants berto next who i feel is gonna beat him but thats takeing a step down imo because berto is still working his way up
Cotto has been beaten ONCE but only because he's not afraid to fight the best fighter out there.
Floyd didn't get full credit for beating Judah because Zab didn't deserve the fight as he lost to Baldomir and looked pathetic doing it. That being said the Zab Judah that fought Floyd was more focused and determined....but Cotto KO'd that version and Floyd didn't
. Floyd didn't get the full credit for beating Baldomir as he knew he couldn't hurt Carlos and he outboxed him but not in a manner where he made Baldomir pay for anything....Floyd didn't flurry on him or make him look foolish or anything any other great fighters did in their most uninspired fights. If Roy Jones Jr. couldn't KO someone he was going to do his damnedest to make them look silly in the ring and he did a good job of it, Pernell Whittaker didn't KO many guys but he made plenty of them look stupid. Floyd has the talent to do that but to waste people's time and money to basically just run away from Baldomir for the last half of the fight and then call himself "The best of all-time"....it's ridiculous, it's what makes people dislike him. He's got great talent but you never know if you're going to get to see it.
Everyone knows Floyd is an awesome fighter but it seems like Floyd is more willing to talk himself up to a high level instead of fighting himself up to a high level. Why leave a division and retire from boxing when the division is overflowing with talent?!?!?! It makes no sense and everyone knows it.
A 27 PBF had
fought and beat Castillo twice
KO'd Angel Mafredy in 2
TKO'd Genaro Hernandez in 8
KO'd Diego Corrales in 10 after knocking him down 5 times.
By age 27 he had won titles at 2 divisions, same as Cotto.
U cannot say that Floyd ducked anyone in his first 2 weight divisions same as Cotto.
Difference is Floyd then went up another 19 pounds and won titles, that would be the equivalent of Cotto winnig a 168 title. If Cotto fought a 168 titleist and won guys like u would be saying how great it was, yet when Floyd does something similiar, u just dismiss it.
My point is that at age 27 Floyd had done as much if not more than Cotto.
Floyd has gone out of his way to dismiss any fight with Margarito and Cotto and anyone else that threatened him.
He didn't want to fight Hatton until Floyd was a full blown welterweight and saw Hatton having trouble vs Luis Collazo and then he realized how easy it would be and made the fight.
Floyd bitched about Mosley ducking him and now what does Floyd doHe ducks Shane!
Floyd is not a risk taker at all you can look at who he fought and who he COULD have fought and it's plain to see he didn't take many chances. He never unified a division and if anyone had the weight behind them to do it it's Floyd!
I knew this couldn't be true, Cotto has too much class to spout off like that. Arum is almost as sleazy as Don King
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