Who is the greatest Mexican fighter of all time?

[southakron314]

ODLH The Golden Boy
*6 division champ
*speed, power, skill and looks to boot.
*Promoter/singer
*Everybody knows him, even non boxing fans.
* fought great opposition.

Wow maybe you should date him

I hope this becomes a trilogy.

[CutMeMick]

If I had to vote just 1 it's simple... JCC.

Here's my top 10 Mexican fighters.

1. JCC
2. 'Finito' Lopez
3. Olivares
4. Sanchez
5. Roman
6. Erik
7. Canto
8. Saldivar
9. MAB
10. 'Chiquita' (Vastly overlooked in the All-Times lists)

Honors: JMM, Zaragoza, Zarate, Efren, Pintor, Medina, 'Santa Tokyo', 'Cobrita', Arce, Zurita, Kid Azteca, Rafa, Izzy, Herrera, Montiel, Mijares, Solis, Cazares, "Yaqui", Arizmendi, "Raton", Villasana.

*Depending how JMM, Mijares, Montiel, Rafa & Izzy close out their respective careers I think either one could potentially slip into the top 10.

[TitoFan]

If I had to vote just 1 it's simple... JCC.

Here's my top 10 Mexican fighters.

1. JCC
2. 'Finito' Lopez
3. Olivares
4. Sanchez
5. Roman
6. Erik
7. Canto
8. Saldivar
9. MAB
10. 'Chiquita' (Vastly overlooked in the All-Times lists)

Honors: JMM, Zaragoza, Zarate, Efren, Pintor, Medina, 'Santa Tokyo', 'Cobrita', Arce, Zurita, Kid Azteca, Rafa, Izzy, Herrera, Montiel, Mijares, Solis, Cazares, "Yaqui", Arizmendi, "Raton", Villasana.

*Depending how JMM, Mijares, Montiel, Rafa & Izzy close out their respective careers I think either one could potentially slip into the top 10.

Good list, Mick. My top five would look like this:

1. Finito
2. Sanchez
3. Chavez
4. Barrera
5. Zarate

[CutMeMick]

I have Zarate somewhere between 11-20.
Not really sure where.
I just feel that his career at championship level aside from the Zamora unification bout (which a lot of people don't know it was) was a bit short compared to others with longevity. Tho his opposition is as good as it could be so there's a plus side...

[Dark Lord Al]

If I had to vote just 1 it's simple... JCC.

Here's my top 10 Mexican fighters.

1. JCC
2. 'Finito' Lopez
3. Olivares
4. Sanchez
5. Roman
6. Erik
7. Canto
8. Saldivar
9. MAB
10. 'Chiquita' (Vastly overlooked in the All-Times lists)

Honors: JMM, Zaragoza, Zarate, Efren, Pintor, Medina, 'Santa Tokyo', 'Cobrita', Arce, Zurita, Kid Azteca, Rafa, Izzy, Herrera, Montiel, Mijares, Solis, Cazares, "Yaqui", Arizmendi, "Raton", Villasana.

*Depending how JMM, Mijares, Montiel, Rafa & Izzy close out their respective careers I think either one could potentially slip into the top 10.

Good list, Mick. My top five would look like this:

1. Finito
2. Sanchez
3. Chavez
4. Barrera
5. Zarate

This list is not a mile off i have to say , Salvador was fantastic but the fact is he did die young , which gives the edge to Finito Lopez for me , but hey both were just wonderful fighters.

[Dark Lord Al]

If I had to vote just 1 it's simple... JCC.

Here's my top 10 Mexican fighters.

1. JCC
2. 'Finito' Lopez
3. Olivares
4. Sanchez
5. Roman
6. Erik
7. Canto
8. Saldivar
9. MAB
10. 'Chiquita' (Vastly overlooked in the All-Times lists)

Honors: JMM, Zaragoza, Zarate, Efren, Pintor, Medina, 'Santa Tokyo', 'Cobrita', Arce, Zurita, Kid Azteca, Rafa, Izzy, Herrera, Montiel, Mijares, Solis, Cazares, "Yaqui", Arizmendi, "Raton", Villasana.

*Depending how JMM, Mijares, Montiel, Rafa & Izzy close out their respective careers I think either one could potentially slip into the top 10.

Good list, Mick. My top five would look like this:

1. Finito
2. Sanchez
3. Chavez
4. Barrera
5. Zarate

This list is not a mile off i have to say , Salvador was fantastic but the fact is he did die young , which gives the edge to Finito Lopez for me , but hey both were just wonderful fighters.

I agree with this guy , finito was the best.

[Bill Paxtom]

As per the Mexican Boxing Press.

It was 'not' Ruben Olivares.

[Manju]

Clearly its this guy:

[rjj tszyu]

If I had to vote just 1 it's simple... JCC.

Here's my top 10 Mexican fighters.

1. JCC
2. 'Finito' Lopez
3. Olivares
4. Sanchez
5. Roman
6. Erik
7. Canto
8. Saldivar
9. MAB
10. 'Chiquita' (Vastly overlooked in the All-Times lists)

Honors: JMM, Zaragoza, Zarate, Efren, Pintor, Medina, 'Santa Tokyo', 'Cobrita', Arce, Zurita, Kid Azteca, Rafa, Izzy, Herrera, Montiel, Mijares, Solis, Cazares, "Yaqui", Arizmendi, "Raton", Villasana.

*Depending how JMM, Mijares, Montiel, Rafa & Izzy close out their respective careers I think either one could potentially slip into the top 10.

Interesting that you have Morales above Barrera.

[IronDanLaw]

Maybe because Morales fought the better competition?

Plus Morales did have wins over Jones and Pacquiao who both beat MAB twice.

Pac did beat Morales twice, but Morales beat Pac first.

[GAME]

Morales didnt have better competetion than Barrera

I'd say the greatest Mexican is Barrera . Chavez is his closest rival but Barrera is a better technical boxer plus he has superfight wins over unefeated superstars .

[ElTerribleMorales]

Morales didnt have better competetion than Barrera

I'd say the greatest Mexican is Barrera . Chavez is his closest rival but Barrera is a better technical boxer plus he has superfight wins over unefeated superstars .

actually Chavez was a damn good technical fighter and he showed it on various occasions that he could box, he did so in the Randall rematch, he could move well even though he was no Roy Jones and he had a good jab, Barrera IMO did have a bit more technical ability but that's the only thing he edges over Chavez. JCC has a record that pretty much neither, Morales, Barrera,no Marquez can compete with, he's taken on more big names than either of them, although not winning them all, but he has plenty of big name wins on his record as well, over better talent than that of Barrera IMO

Chavez:
Ruben Castillo
Roger Mayweather (2X)
Rocky Lockridge
Juan Laporte
Edwin Rosario
Rafael Limon
Jose Luis Ramirez
Meldrick Taylor (2X)
Hector Camacho
Greg Haugen
Pernell Whitaker (even though a draw, he took the fight)
Frankie Randall (W2 L1)
Tony Lopez
Oscar De La Hoya (L-2)
Kostya Tzyu (L-1)

Barrera:
Agapito Sanchez
Kennedy Mckinney
Junior Jones (L-2)
Erik Morales (W2-L1)
Naseem Hamed
Johnny Tapia (and he was passed his best)
Kevin Kelly
Manny Pacquiao (L-2)
Paulie Ayala
Mzonke Fana
Robbie Peden (decent fighter that KO'd Campbell twice)
Rocky Juarez (2X)
Juan Manuel Marquez (L-1)
Amir Khan (L-1 should have been a NC)

If you take apart the fighters they faced, Chavez actually has had the better opposition

and as for the Morales/Barrera deal...

Morales:
Daniel Zaragoza
Junior Jones (WTKO-4)
Angel Chacon (fought plenty of big names and gave them good fights)
Wayne McCullough
Marco Antonio Barrera (W-1 L-2)
Kevin Kelly (WTKO-7)
Gutty Espadas Jr (tough close UD, then blew him out in 3 in the rematch)
In Jin Chi
Paulie Ayala
Jesus Chavez
Carlos Hernandez
Manny Pacquiao (W-1 L-2)
Zahir Raheem (L-1)
David Diaz (L-1, was complete bullshit loss)

and you can argue who's fought the best between them, me? i say Morales has had the better opposition, and never sacrificed his way of fighting to win, ultimately i feel this is what led to Morales' downfall at such a young age of 30 but taking so many blows to the head for over 14 yrs will do that to you, i say Barrera's longevity gives him a boost to compete against Morales for greatest Mexican Fighter of all time, but honestly the same way that i scored their trilogy is where i'll put both of them, tied

[Hunter]

I am surprised Tito Trinidad didnt make your list.












JK - I would say Julio Caesar Chavez.....

[TommyGunn_]

JCC Imo.

[southakron314]

Sanchez sadly died before he was ever in his prime. What was he 23 - 24 or something like that.