Where does this put Tony P4P

[p4pking]

Wouldn't personally put him in the top 10 I don't think. Obviously beating Cotto was a great achievement but it's hard to say there aren't at least 10-15 fighters in boxing who are easily better than him accounting for everything. I definetly still think Cotto is a better p4p fighter, he could still beat a few top guys Margarito probably couldn't imo.

[Onix]

Wouldn't personally put him in the top 10 I don't think. Obviously beating Cotto was a great achievement but it's hard to say there aren't at least 10-15 fighters in boxing who are easily better than him accounting for everything. I definetly still think Cotto is a better p4p fighter, he could still beat a few top guys Margarito probably couldn't imo.

I had thought of that also but take this into consideration could those 10-15 guys that a fundamentally "betteR" have beat Cotto? And doesnt beating cotto make Toni a better fighter?

How many notches did Cotto fall in your opinion with this loss?

[Onix]

Just posted...Yahoo sports P4P list: ANy thoughts on it?

1. Manny Pacquiao
Points: 206 (17 of 21 first-place votes)
Record: 47-3-2 (36 KOs)
Title: WBC lightweight champion
Last outing: TKO9 over David Diaz on June 28
Previous ranking: 1
Up next: Potential Dec. 6 bout vs. Oscar De La Hoya
Analysis: Improvement of right hand makes him clearly No. 1.
2. Joe Calzaghe
Points: 177 (4 of 21 first-place votes)
Record: 45-0 (32 KOs)
Title: WBA, WBO and The Ring super middleweight champion and The Ring light heavyweight champion
Last outing: W12 over No. 9 Bernard Hopkins on April 19
Previous ranking: 2
Up next: Nov. 8 in New York vs. Roy Jones Jr.
Analysis: Familiar refrain: Had to pull out of Sept. 20 date with Jones because of hand injury.
3. Juan Manuel Marquez
Points: 162
Record: 48-4-1 (35 KOs)
Title: None
Last outing: L12 to No. 1 Manny Pacquiao on March 15
Previous ranking: 4
Up next: Sept. 13 vs. Joel Casamayor in Las Vegas
Analysis: Outstanding boxer with all-around skills
4. Israel Vazquez
Points: 132
Record: 43-4 (31 KOs)
Title: WBC and The Ring super bantamweight champion
Last outing: W12 over No. 7 Rafael Marquez on March 1
Previous ranking: 5
Up next: Nothing scheduled
Analysis: Strong, powerful and has a great chin.
5. Kelly Pavlik
Points: 121
Record: 34-0 (30 KOs)
Title: WBC, WBO and The Ring middleweight champion
Last outing: TKO3 over Gary Lockett on June 7
Previous ranking: 6
Up next: Oct. 18 vs. No. 9 Bernard Hopkins in Atlantic City, N.J.
Analysis: Punching power is perhaps best in boxing.
6. Antonio Margarito
Points: 111
Record: 37-5 (27 KOs)
Title: WBA welterweight champion
Last outing: TKO11 over No. 8 Miguel Cotto on July 26
Previous ranking: NR
Up next: Nothing scheduled
Analysis: Phenomenal chin allows him to keep barreling ahead.
7. Rafael Marquez
Points: 63
Record: 37-5 (33 KOs)
Title: None
Last outing: L12 to No. 4 Israel Vazquez on March 1
Previous ranking: 7
Up next: Nothing scheduled
Analysis: Highly underrated as a boxer.
8. Miguel Cotto
Points: 59
Record: 32-1 (26 KOs)
Title: None
Last outing: TKO by 11 to Antonio Margarito on July 26
Previous ranking: 3
Up next: Plenty of rest
Analysis: Fought brilliantly for most of the fight against Margarito, but found a bigger and stronger opponent.
9. Bernard Hopkins
Points: 40
Record: 48-5 (32 KOs)
Title: None
Last outing: L12 to No. 2 Joe Calzaghe on April 19
Previous ranking: 8
Up next: Oct. 18 vs. No. 5 Kelly Pavlik in Atlantic City, N.J.
Analysis: Game’s most crafty fighter.
10. Cristian Mijares
Points: 24
Record: 35-3-2 (14 KOs)
Title: WBA and WBC super flyweight champion
Last outing: W12 over Alexander Munoz on May 17
Previous ranking: 10
Up next: Aug. 30 vs. Chatchai Sasakui in Monterrey, Mexico
Analysis: Highly regarded boxer.

[ssss]

Well i think Antonio Margarito is too high Rafael Marquez is too high Christian Mijares is too low and Kelly Pavlik is a tad too high but where is Ivan Calderon ?

[p4pking]

Wouldn't personally put him in the top 10 I don't think. Obviously beating Cotto was a great achievement but it's hard to say there aren't at least 10-15 fighters in boxing who are easily better than him accounting for everything. I definetly still think Cotto is a better p4p fighter, he could still beat a few top guys Margarito probably couldn't imo.

I had thought of that also but take this into consideration could those 10-15 guys that a fundamentally "betteR" have beat Cotto? And doesnt beating cotto make Toni a better fighter?

How many notches did Cotto fall in your opinion with this loss?

Probably not, but you can't base a ranking on the ability to beat one guy. And no, beating Cotto can't make Toni a better fighter than he is. Like I said, I still think Cotto is a better p4p fighter. I think he'd do much better against Williams, Mosley(done), Quintana(done), and Mayweather than Margo could. No clue where Cotto would drop to as I really wasn't sure exactly where he would have been, but I don't think he should drop to much. Number 8 in that list Im not sure about, but I don't think Margarito should be number 6 personally. Hopkins and Mijares are better than he is imo.

[leftylee]

Tony is about 5-7 on my P4P right now.