Why is David Haye so disliked o here???

[Mikkel_K]

Haye is either gonna be great for the HW division or he may make it worse than it ever was.

If he does what he says, comes in and KO's everyone, smashe Wlad to bits and brings fans back, he'll do wonders for the shitty division.

On the other hand tho if he talks up a good fight, beats a couple of bums, gets his shot at Wlad, draws a massive crowd and PPV audience and is

a) sparked the fuck out in a round or two

or

b) eats jabs all night from Wlad to a boring UD loss

the division will be back where it started or worse.

If a) happened, I think it would still be good for the division. We need a dominant HW champ who actually look inspiring in KTFO'ing people (or at least trying to do so). Especially people of a certain calibre, not just the Ray Austin's of this world.

So, if Wlad did this in front of a massive PPV audience, I'd be happy. The alternative - as we should know by now - is a jab snoozefest in front of noone, but the true masochists, and against someone we will never hear about again.

[El Kabong]

If a) happened, I think it would still be good for the division. We need a dominant HW champ who actually look inspiring in KTFO'ing people (or at least trying to do so). Especially people of a certain calibre, not just the Ray Austin's of this world.

So, if Wlad did this in front of a massive PPV audience, I'd be happy. The alternative - as we should know by now - is a jab snoozefest in front of noone, but the true masochists, and against someone we will never hear about again.

Hey Ray Austin was a mandatory....Sultan Ibragimov fought scared and was a southpaw and Tony Thompson was a bigger southpaw.


How many southpaws did Lennox Lewis have to fight

Wlad will come in vs Povetkin (who I assume he'll be fighting later this year) and just thump him out in a round or two. Povetkin doesn't have much power, he doesn't have good defense, and he doesn't take a punch too well. But before his fight with Chambers everyone (or a lot more people than are thinking so right now) thought he was going to be THE MAN.

David Haye has not had the experience that Holyfield had when he moved up or Moorer had when he moved up.

Moorer had 22 fights at light heavyweight, 6 fights at heavyweight before fighting for the vacant WBO title and then had 5 more fights before he fought Evander Holyfield for THE Championship belts (IBF/WBA).

Holyfield had 4 fights at light heavyweight, 14 fights at cruiserweight unified the division, and had 6 fights at heavyweight before fighting for THE Championship titles.

David Haye sounds like he wants a warm up fight just because Wlad just had a fight and then he wants to fight Wlad......he's wanting too much too soon. I'm all for him fighting Wlad because I want Haye's sorry ass stomped out ASAP but if he wants to have a successful CAREER he'll have a couple fights to test himself vs the bigger guys because he's going to have to get used to them.