that wasn't a robbery, it could have gone either way. Hearns-Leonard II was a robbery coz hearns dominated and still couldn't get the decision.Originally Posted by TyBuff
Delahoya-Trinidad
Delahoya-Mosley II
Delahoya-Sturm
that wasn't a robbery, it could have gone either way. Hearns-Leonard II was a robbery coz hearns dominated and still couldn't get the decision.Originally Posted by TyBuff
Delahoya-Trinidad
Delahoya-Mosley II
Delahoya-Sturm
"Very few people really understand what it means to be a fighter. I hate it when I hear someone say, 'That fighter doesn't have guts. I hate that, I don't care if you're a world champion six times over or a four-round fighter, to step inside that ring, you have to have guts" Oscar De La Hoya
Yeah, there have been many odd decisions. There are many instances that show the 'dog eat dog' and the slightly unsavoury air that often permeates this great sport.
So, I would like to bring forward Jack Dempsey - Tommy Gibbons for the delectation of the discerning members of this forum. And also Baller 27 as he is, indeed, a monster for his weight.
This fight ranks as one of the most extraordinary heavyweight title fights in history. Shelby is a small hamlet tucked away in a remote corner of the very remote and desolate state of Montana. The good (and gullible) citizens of Shelby (population 2,500) read that Montreal had offered the then Heavyweight Champ, Jack Dempsey, $100,000 to stage a championship fight in Montreal.
Rich on the proceeds of mining, and desperate to get their small town on the map, Shelby decided to offer £200,000. This is the equivalent to some $20million today. One thing led to another and the fight was on.
Tommy Gibbons the challenger, desperate for a title shot, agreed to appear for little more than a pittance - the story goes that, with expenses, he was out of pocket at the end of the whole sorry affair. Shelby actually built a 40,000 seater stadium for the fight. They sold 7,000 tickets.
The fight was delayed an hour because the referee refused to enter the ring unless he was paid up front in cash.
Gibbins was a fast and talented fighter who had the style to give Dempseytrouble in the early rounds, but Jack's power and aggression eventually won through. Amazingly (when you look at Dempsey's KO record) Gibbons was still standing at the end of 15 rounds: the first man to do that against the great Manassa Mauler. Since the referee was Dempsey's friend and was appointed by Dempsey, it takes little imagination to work out who got the decision!
Staging the event cost the townspeople over $1m (in 1923!!!!). They spent so much money on building the stadium that they could not afford to insure it, and needless to say it burnt to the ground a month after the fight. The townsfolk tried to recoup a bit of their investment through the showing of a film of the fight. Accordingly, they gave the film to a distributor named Grossman, along with a £1,000 advance. Needless to say, the film and Grossman were never seen again.
Shelby went bankrupt.
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Originally Posted by X
Actually I've got the fight on dvd as part of a espn boxset. It only shows the highlights so I can't really comment decisively but the commentator (modern dubbed over) says that Gibbons does a great job of frustrating Dempsey and spoiling but does not even suggest in the slightest that Gibbons does enough to win.
He goes on to say that Dempsey has got an easy(unanimous) decision in a hard fought fight and that Gibbons held and spoiled his way to the end.
Of the other fights hardly any were real robberies, how can a draw be a robbery?
Some REAL robberies although not necessarily big fights that spring to mind are Roy Jones in the Olympic Final, Daemon Kelly's recent fight against Simone Maludrottu and (don't laugh it was a terrible decision) the contender rematch between Anthony (best Dad and great K-Mart employee) Bonsante against Jesse Brinkley. I had that fight 5 rounds to 0 to Bonsante as did all the commentary team, the crowd, everybody. How that went to Brinkley I'll never know..........
Originally Posted by bilbo
I didn't mean the fight result was a robbery - Doc Kearns (Dempsey's promoter) set the whole thing up as an elaborate, low risk, scam - knowing that Shelby would not be able to pay. That is highway robbery that even Don King would be proud of!
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Ahh I see what you mean!
I kneel to your superior wit and intellect. See my post in the noobs knowing nothing about boxing thread. :P
Pat Cowdell v Dave Needham 1st. They gave it to Needham Pat stood him on his head. He won the 2nd by winning every round and they made him win it by 2 rds Ill never forget it.that was in the days of the Cartel
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How about Richard "most controversial ref ever" Steele stopping Tyson-Ruddick 1 waaay too early.
Still waiting for Sal to come on here and say "Mayweather vs Judah"![]()
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Jones v Korea takes the cake for me. He nearly didnt turn pro because of that result, imagine that...Originally Posted by smashcrusher
Leonard - Hearns deuce, IMO
CheersOriginally Posted by bilbo
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And I take my hand off for your kind compliments.
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Joel Casamayor-Arcelino Freitas
Joel Casamayor-Diego Corrales 2
Joel Casamayor-Jose Luis Castillo
Raul Marquez-Keith Mullings (did you see Marquez's face)
Casamayor has had a few controversial losses and what not. The second Corrales fight, despite droppin Chico I felt he lost. The Freitas fight, I also felt he lost, but it was close. He definately got screwed against Kid Diamond, he won that fight, it was no draw. But against Castillo? Come on. He was manhandled and beaten up worse than ever before or since in his career.Originally Posted by Violent Demise
"You knocked him down...now how bout you try knockin me down ?"
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