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[JT Rock]

I just think thats shortsighted, wehn you look and see he is the most fundamentally sound out of all the Welters... Good straight punches, handspeed, power, chin great defense and footwork to go along with an imposing size, not to mention will and determination... The guy wont make any hig light reels but when you say he lacks fire I think thats relative to the opponent you are facing... Judah is dangerous with his spped, power and angles, Joshuw is methodical in his stalking and picking shots, his style is much like Winky minus the jab... He blocks blocks and then counterpunches.. These guys take a little longer to hit the big time because its not the most electrifying to watch, but it is the most consistent and proven method+

Nice debate as always ICB, hope all is well with you

[ssss]

I just think thats shortsighted, wehn you look and see he is the most fundamentally sound out of all the Welters... Good straight punches, handspeed, power, chin great defense and footwork to go along with an imposing size, not to mention will and determination... The guy wont make any hig light reels but when you say he lacks fire I think thats relative to the opponent you are facing... Judah is dangerous with his spped, power and angles, Joshuw is methodical in his stalking and picking shots, his style is much like Winky minus the jab... He blocks blocks and then counterpunches.. These guys take a little longer to hit the big time because its not the most electrifying to watch, but it is the most consistent and proven method+

Nice debate as always ICB, hope all is well with you

I agree with what your saying but i still can't see him beating the top Welterweights this is how i see it.....

Joshua Clottey vs Antonio Margarito = Antonio Margarito UD
Joshua Clottey vs Paul Williams = Paul Williams UD
Joshua Clottey vs Shane Mosley = Shane Mosley by UD
Joshua Clottey vs Floyd Mayweather = Floyd Mayweather by UD
Joshua Clottey vs Miguel Cotto = Miguel Cotto by UD
Joshua Clottey vs Andre Berto = Andre Berto by UD

The only other top Welterweights i can see him beating are Luis Collazo, Kermit Cintron......

Joshua Clottey is good but he isn't good enough to beat those 6 top Welterweights i listed above in my opinion.

[OumaFan]

I obviously don't like him but I'm trying not to let that cloud my thinking of him as a fighter. He's good, very solid, durable, skilled. Just don't that he has that extra something to be a real elite fighter. Lacks ambition or fire or something, he just cruises too much. He'll never (unless he fights on too long) be really embarrassed in the ring by anybody because he's very solid but I don't see him as an elite guy.