Quote Originally Posted by shza

Kobe is an extremely selfish player on the court and a prima donna off the court, all of which leads to his team mates not respecting him and being unwilling to give it the extra 10% when necessary (not that he passes to them much anyway--you're
Funny, every other teammate says the opposite, particularly Lamar Odom and Smush Parker who say that Kobe is all about getting people involved and has since only going to go on those scoring routes when he absolutely has to.

in the playoffs; in a lot of those games, it was the same old ball hog kobe).
He wasn't even the leading scorer in the games they won and he averaged 8 or 9 assists in those playoffs, and he was 4th on the scorers on his team during that playoffs and in Game 4 the layup that tied it was his own shot of the 4th quarter.

Yea he was sure a ballhog in the playoffs

and odom is better than anyone lebron's got, so don't even go there.
ARE YOU KIDDING ME!!?!?!?!?! Lamar is more inconsistant then George Bush on terrorists

jordan won 6 with pippen and a bunch of schwag, so if kobe's so great he ought to be able to at least get into round 2 of the playoffs with odom on his team.
Odom isn't comparable ti Pippen since Pippen was more consistant. But Jordan never won a championship without Pipper and Pippen never won a championship without Jordan.

Now lets look at the lineup of some of those Bulls teams hmm..

Steve Kerr NATURAL STARTER

Ron Harper NATURAL STARTER

Scottie Pippen NATURAL STARTER

Paxon STARTER

Dennis Rodman NATURAL STARTER and leader in the NBA in rebounds when he was in Detroit.

Now you look at some of the lineup on Kobe's team for the last few

Smush Parker their starting point

NBDL player who was last off the bench for every NBA Team he started

Kwame Brown

First round washout who's confidence was shattered BY Jordan at Washington just starting to come into his own and not a natural starter, just as a laker when Mihm was injured

Chris Mihm

Off the bench center but starts for the lakers, but NOT a Natural starter throughoug his career, only as a Laker.

Kobe Bryant NATURAL STARTER

Lamar Odom NATURAL STARTER

Luke Walton.....

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Aaron Mckie Off the bench point guard for Philly

Sasha their second PG I think it played overseas in the italian league.

brian cook, not a natural starter, just started to come to his own this year

deavon george, not a natural starter and inconsistant

I don't see 5 Natural starters on any of the Laker's squad(for the last year) when compared with the Bulls that was so dominant, so to say Jordan only had Pippen on his team is in Mike Tyson's words ludacris!!!


lebron was runner up in MVP voting this year at age 21. kobe has NEVER been ranked so highly by GMs and others who study the game for a living.
it's called hype and politics

And how many times has LeBron made both the NBA All first team and the NBA all first team in defense


I hate all the Kobe hate. There's no point. he goes for 60+ in the first 3 quarters against the Mavericks and decides to sit down because the team was there to win now showcase him and it was HIS DECISION to sit the final last of the 3rd and the whole of the 4th because Phil gave him the option to play. he didn't. And he was bashed by the haters and all they were saying is that "Kobe should have played but he say himself for the "right reason" this was his opportunity to make history but he can only think about himself and his image so he sits himself to look "good" well that makes him so selfish. He had a chance for HISTORY!! blah blah blah."

Ok... then he goes out and scores 81, 81!!! And people say that "Oh he's selfish because he didn't have to score 81 and make history he should have sat himself and blah blah." Which contradicts all those other hate statements. they can call him selfish but you forget that his team was down when he went on his scoring spree to get 81, so he did it to help his team not himself.

Then again some people hate Kobe no matter what, just drop it. He's better then LeBron in my opinion.

So I'll pick Kobe.

Quote Originally Posted by smashcrusher
Lebron is better and when all is said and done will have more rings than Kobe, and certainly will have them without the most dominant big man in history carrying him.
HOLD ON!!! They both carried each other. has Shaq ever won a ring without Kobe? Or has he even gotten close without someone else carrying him? He had Penny Hardaway in Orlando, he had Kobe Bryant in LA and he has Dwane Wade in Miami. And Shaq also has Kobe to thank for being the assists that were the reason he scored so much and that they won 3 titles! Shaq got Kobe to thank for those 3 rings too!