I see Hopkins doing a lot of this against Pavlik the Puncher

[LEGION]

I think Pavlik is going to have more problems than some anticipate.

I see him winning just from output alone; and really cleaning up in the later rounds, but I don't see him ko'ing Hop.

I love this fight; for the simple reason it will teach Kelly alot IMO. He will learn to shore up the left side defense better, as he has a tendency to leave that jab hanging out a little long, or dropping it down to his side. Hopkins is going to catch him doing that, bet on it.

This will also be a big test for Kelly because he's going to get caught some shots to the body; which is where I feel the best chance of beating him comes from; at least stopping him anyways, or slowing him down enough to stop the constant attack he brings. That long thin body is going to be targeted by Hopkins and I can see Kelly getting dropped a couple of times.

Kelly isn't the bigger guy in this fight; like all his previous opponents. Maybe a slight heigth advantage, but that's it. And this will imo be a big challenge not being the "giant" in the fight.

But even a hater will say Kelly is a game guy, and there's no quit in him; so knocked down or not, he will come back harder and eventually the work rate will overwhelm Hopkins. He can't stay on the bicycle all night; and he can't fight a whole 12 anymore, so you'll see him picking his shots carefully; but he's not going to be a pushover for Kelly. This is a great oppurtunity for Pavlik to learn alot. Just my take on the whole thing.

[kylewhitehead]

I think Pavlik is going to have more problems than some anticipate.

I see him winning just from output alone; and really cleaning up in the later rounds, but I don't see him ko'ing Hop.

I love this fight; for the simple reason it will teach Kelly alot IMO. He will learn to shore up the left side defense better, as he has a tendency to leave that jab hanging out a little long, or dropping it down to his side. Hopkins is going to catch him doing that, bet on it.

This will also be a big test for Kelly because he's going to get caught some shots to the body; which is where I feel the best chance of beating him comes from; at least stopping him anyways, or slowing him down enough to stop the constant attack he brings. That long thin body is going to be targeted by Hopkins and I can see Kelly getting dropped a couple of times.

Kelly isn't the bigger guy in this fight; like all his previous opponents. Maybe a slight heigth advantage, but that's it. And this will imo be a big challenge not being the "giant" in the fight.

But even a hater will say Kelly is a game guy, and there's no quit in him; so knocked down or not, he will come back harder and eventually the work rate will overwhelm Hopkins. He can't stay on the bicycle all night; and he can't fight a whole 12 anymore, so you'll see him picking his shots carefully; but he's not going to be a pushover for Kelly. This is a great oppurtunity for Pavlik to learn alot. Just my take on the whole thing.

wow way to break it down. I'm probably dreaming when I'm predicting pavlik knocking him out early. I would like to see it though, we need another superstar in the sport.

Even at 43 hopkins probably has enough tricks in the bag to last him awhile. But I see him gassing out like in calzaghe fight, and I believe he will be in trouble.

Pavlik hits harder than calzaghe.

[southakron314]

I think Pavlik is going to have more problems than some anticipate.

I see him winning just from output alone; and really cleaning up in the later rounds, but I don't see him ko'ing Hop.

I love this fight; for the simple reason it will teach Kelly alot IMO. He will learn to shore up the left side defense better, as he has a tendency to leave that jab hanging out a little long, or dropping it down to his side. Hopkins is going to catch him doing that, bet on it.

This will also be a big test for Kelly because he's going to get caught some shots to the body; which is where I feel the best chance of beating him comes from; at least stopping him anyways, or slowing him down enough to stop the constant attack he brings. That long thin body is going to be targeted by Hopkins and I can see Kelly getting dropped a couple of times.

Kelly isn't the bigger guy in this fight; like all his previous opponents. Maybe a slight heigth advantage, but that's it. And this will imo be a big challenge not being the "giant" in the fight.

But even a hater will say Kelly is a game guy, and there's no quit in him; so knocked down or not, he will come back harder and eventually the work rate will overwhelm Hopkins. He can't stay on the bicycle all night; and he can't fight a whole 12 anymore, so you'll see him picking his shots carefully; but he's not going to be a pushover for Kelly. This is a great oppurtunity for Pavlik to learn alot. Just my take on the whole thing.

The only thing in this fight that jumps out is the fact that Pavlik is just as busy as Calzaghe with loads more power. Hopkins looked normal after 12 with Joe. Even though Hopkins tank was on empty after the 10th now he has to fight a cat who could easily do 15 rounds if those fights were still avalible. But what do i know. Im just white trash from Ohio.

[LEGION]

I think Pavlik is going to have more problems than some anticipate.

I see him winning just from output alone; and really cleaning up in the later rounds, but I don't see him ko'ing Hop.

I love this fight; for the simple reason it will teach Kelly alot IMO. He will learn to shore up the left side defense better, as he has a tendency to leave that jab hanging out a little long, or dropping it down to his side. Hopkins is going to catch him doing that, bet on it.

This will also be a big test for Kelly because he's going to get caught some shots to the body; which is where I feel the best chance of beating him comes from; at least stopping him anyways, or slowing him down enough to stop the constant attack he brings. That long thin body is going to be targeted by Hopkins and I can see Kelly getting dropped a couple of times.

Kelly isn't the bigger guy in this fight; like all his previous opponents. Maybe a slight heigth advantage, but that's it. And this will imo be a big challenge not being the "giant" in the fight.

But even a hater will say Kelly is a game guy, and there's no quit in him; so knocked down or not, he will come back harder and eventually the work rate will overwhelm Hopkins. He can't stay on the bicycle all night; and he can't fight a whole 12 anymore, so you'll see him picking his shots carefully; but he's not going to be a pushover for Kelly. This is a great oppurtunity for Pavlik to learn alot. Just my take on the whole thing.

The only thing in this fight that jumps out is the fact that Pavlik is just as busy as Calzaghe with loads more power. Hopkins looked normal after 12 with Joe. Even though Hopkins tank was on empty after the 10th now he has to fight a cat who could easily do 15 rounds if those fights were still avalible. But what do i know. Im just white trash from Ohio.

Yeah, but what concerns me, like I touched on, really is if Hopkins can get to Kelly's body. We all know Pav can go 12, and that's throwing as many punches as he can, but I'm betting Hasim works Hopkins on getting to Pav's body, and that could conceivably slow Kelly down.

Also, I can see Kelly getting impatient and trying to almost overwork Hopkins, just to open him up, and getting a bit tired, not to mention sloppy. But what do I know? I worry more about this fight for Pavlik than any other up to this point.

[southakron314]

I think Pavlik is going to have more problems than some anticipate.

I see him winning just from output alone; and really cleaning up in the later rounds, but I don't see him ko'ing Hop.

I love this fight; for the simple reason it will teach Kelly alot IMO. He will learn to shore up the left side defense better, as he has a tendency to leave that jab hanging out a little long, or dropping it down to his side. Hopkins is going to catch him doing that, bet on it.

This will also be a big test for Kelly because he's going to get caught some shots to the body; which is where I feel the best chance of beating him comes from; at least stopping him anyways, or slowing him down enough to stop the constant attack he brings. That long thin body is going to be targeted by Hopkins and I can see Kelly getting dropped a couple of times.

Kelly isn't the bigger guy in this fight; like all his previous opponents. Maybe a slight heigth advantage, but that's it. And this will imo be a big challenge not being the "giant" in the fight.

But even a hater will say Kelly is a game guy, and there's no quit in him; so knocked down or not, he will come back harder and eventually the work rate will overwhelm Hopkins. He can't stay on the bicycle all night; and he can't fight a whole 12 anymore, so you'll see him picking his shots carefully; but he's not going to be a pushover for Kelly. This is a great oppurtunity for Pavlik to learn alot. Just my take on the whole thing.

The only thing in this fight that jumps out is the fact that Pavlik is just as busy as Calzaghe with loads more power. Hopkins looked normal after 12 with Joe. Even though Hopkins tank was on empty after the 10th now he has to fight a cat who could easily do 15 rounds if those fights were still avalible. But what do i know. Im just white trash from Ohio.

Yeah, but what concerns me, like I touched on, really is if Hopkins can get to Kelly's body. We all know Pav can go 12, and that's throwing as many punches as he can, but I'm betting Hasim works Hopkins on getting to Pav's body, and that could conceivably slow Kelly down.

Also, I can see Kelly getting impatient and trying to almost overwork Hopkins, just to open him up, and getting a bit tired, not to mention sloppy. But what do I know? I worry more about this fight for Pavlik than any other up to this point.

Lets just hope Pavlik can pick up and learn to counter when that hand goes down. I wonder how good his body is. He looks like a normal skinny guy but I would bet my life he would put me out with one punch and I would not even see it. He is not built like a prototype boxer with the 8 pack of abs and a chissled set of pecs. He has to try to get some kind of body work if he wants to stop the unstoppable.

[CountryBoy]

Yep Pavlik will need to land that right to the body to slow Hopkins down earlier and not get over confident and get caught by some bulshat. I think he will land his left hook more often then his straight right, Because Hopkins likes to duck to his right.

[truth32]

come on lets be real the only chance hopkins has is his defence and pavliks punching power goes right through other boxers defence. hopkins is getting old hes not gonna be able to move like he needs to be able to. lets remmeber pavlik spanked taylor who took hokins 12 rounds twice beating him close both times