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    Quote Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by pacfan View Post
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    If your opponent is arrogant,encourage his arrogance-
    The Art Of War
    Which means, 'to let him fall on his own folly,' the same principle used in Japanese martial art of Aikido.
    Or even real Kung Fu which is mainly redirection of motion in the blocks
    Exactly, that is why true oriental martial arts are defensive in nature. The opponent is at the weakest when he attacks.
    Once in awhile, get outside in fresh air, take a deep breath & with a deep sigh, let out all the things that's bottled up inside you & be free, & you'll get a glimpse of nirvana.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pacfan View Post
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    Which means, 'to let him fall on his own folly,' the same principle used in Japanese martial art of Aikido.
    Or even real Kung Fu which is mainly redirection of motion in the blocks
    Exactly, that is why true oriental martial arts are defensive in nature. The opponent is at the weakest when he attacks.
    When he was doing well,this is what I had Andrew doing in the Dumas fight,unfortunatly he didnt stay with the game plan I wrote for him.
    The game plan was when Dumas rushed him,to either pop the jab in to his nose(he did break it) or step to the side and hook him,letting Dumas's momentum help the damage.
    It worked when he followed it,but when he panicked and reverted.....................

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey View Post
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    Or even real Kung Fu which is mainly redirection of motion in the blocks
    Exactly, that is why true oriental martial arts are defensive in nature. The opponent is at the weakest when he attacks.
    When he was doing well,this is what I had Andrew doing in the Dumas fight,unfortunatly he didnt stay with the game plan I wrote for him.
    The game plan was when Dumas rushed him,to either pop the jab in to his nose(he did break it) or step to the side and hook him,letting Dumas's momentum help the damage.
    It worked when he followed it,but when he panicked and reverted.....................
    You mean you train these pros, that's cool. I don't watch much of these martial arts stuffs but I know what you mean. It's really difficult to keep your focus because in actual combat, psychological aspects come in to play almost as much as the physical ones. Your boy needs some mental training to build up his focus and confidence. I see lots of these boys who're really good during training but becoming tentative on the ring, but who can blame them, right? What's most important is to keep your feet firmly on the ground and the when the opportunity arises, attack with full force - no in-betweens - and getting back into firm ground as quickly as possible for the next counter-attack.
    Once in awhile, get outside in fresh air, take a deep breath & with a deep sigh, let out all the things that's bottled up inside you & be free, & you'll get a glimpse of nirvana.

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    I not sure if its from the art of war ?
    But I read one that stated A small country can overtake a large country by declaring war then surrendering... True when you look at Japans fall then her rise and the USA's cost of rebuliding her and now her leading world market.
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    You can only give something up to the extent that you own it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andre View Post
    I not sure if its from the art of war ?
    But I read one that stated A small country can overtake a large country by declaring war then surrendering... True when you look at Japans fall then her rise and the USA's cost of rebuliding her and now her leading world market.
    No, that's from pacfan's art of 'letting it be and letting go.' When the Japanese tried hard they failed, but when they let go (surrendered), they succeeded, simple as that.

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    You can only give something up to the extent that you own it.
    Funny but that's particularly true for those people, counsellors or advisors giving advices on various media. If you look at some of their lives, they're probably no different from most people, with their shares of same, worldly problems which they can't handle, but which they try to solve for others. Strange but true, it's always easier to solve other's problem than your own, if you get my drift...
    Once in awhile, get outside in fresh air, take a deep breath & with a deep sigh, let out all the things that's bottled up inside you & be free, & you'll get a glimpse of nirvana.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pacfan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Andre View Post
    I not sure if its from the art of war ?
    But I read one that stated A small country can overtake a large country by declaring war then surrendering... True when you look at Japans fall then her rise and the USA's cost of rebuliding her and now her leading world market.
    No, that's from pacfan's art of 'letting it be and letting go.' When the Japanese tried hard they failed, but when they let go (surrendered), they succeeded, simple as that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Andre View Post
    You can only give something up to the extent that you own it.
    Funny but that's particularly true for those people, counsellors or advisors giving advices on various media. If you look at some of their lives, they're probably no different from most people, with their shares of same, worldly problems which they can't handle, but which they try to solve for others. Strange but true, it's always easier to solve other's problem than your own, if you get my drift...
    Its also very true if want to take the dis of ease in disease.But can go one step further than lettingit be; If you actually give thanks that it is in you and learn to love firstly the lesson it brings, or the warning, or the forced changes to your life, or your thoughts, or your new standpoint then increase it and join it all up into sending self love into the problem area instead of fear, the friction is then removed and the there is no fight.
    Your body/mind can heal itself with greater ease because you realize that you one way or another allow it in at the onset. Then you no longer belive in some external secret force that has landed this onto you.
    No fight = no blame= no victum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andre View Post
    I not sure if its from the art of war ?
    But I read one that stated A small country can overtake a large country by declaring war then surrendering... True when you look at Japans fall then her rise and the USA's cost of rebuliding her and now her leading world market.
    I cant find my copy of The Art Of War at the moment to confirm(I read alot) but I do remember reading that in there
    Though another quote I love from it
    "Winning a battle is not a success,it is a failure at negotiation"

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    [quote=Trainer Monkey;581941]
    Quote Originally Posted by Andre View Post
    "Winning a battle is not a success,it is a failure at negotiation"
    wow thats a fair bit deeper than it first appears! It even brings into account what should be held as the first priority amongst men.
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    [quote=Andre;582161]
    Quote Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Andre View Post
    "Winning a battle is not a success,it is a failure at negotiation"
    wow thats a fair bit deeper than it first appears! It even brings into account what should be held as the first priority amongst men.
    It could even be failure to negotiate with yourself, in that why are you personally needing to battle in the first place...

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    ...talking of ki, when I was in deep meditation one night, I released all the loads on my body and soul, and so feeling nice and light, with only pleasant light surrounding me, I suddenly felt something surge inside me, tingling my body. So I thought, aha, this must be the ki energy! So I went to the kitchen and got myself a nice, shiny spoon and immediately went back to my couch and got myself again in my lotus position, holding on to my spoon. Then I started to put my mind into the spoon waiting it to bend - yes you heard it right, bend. Then...

    ...I must have dozed off. Where were we Andre? ah, back to work...
    Once in awhile, get outside in fresh air, take a deep breath & with a deep sigh, let out all the things that's bottled up inside you & be free, & you'll get a glimpse of nirvana.

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