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    Quote Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTON View Post
    I love watching Cintron get busted up and dematerialize right before my eyes...

    Depends if Cotto gets hit getting inside with his chin and Cintrons power i predict an early KO Cintron.

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    I am not sure if people would pay to see a rematch right away with Tony after he lost clearly and in a humiliating way. If the fight was close then yeah, different story. Maybe have Cotto get a couple of victories here and there to elevate his status once again even if he fights guys passed their primes or a few journeymen like he has done already. He should be back soon, he's still young.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chino View Post
    I am not sure if people would pay to see a rematch right away with Tony after he lost clearly and in a humiliating way. If the fight was close then yeah, different story. Maybe have Cotto get a couple of victories here and there to elevate his status once again even if he fights guys passed their primes or a few journeymen like he has done already. He should be back soon, he's still young.

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    I complete disagree with him coming back this year.

    People need to realize this dudes been fight 3, 4 times a year for the past 4 yrs. or so. He's been fighting top level opposition since early in his career and he hasn't slowed down. When you go through that many fights a year for 4 yrs. or so it will def. take its toll on the body.

    Cotto needs time off and needs to take a vacation to clear the mind, take the kids somewhere fun and just relax for the rest of this year.

    A return early 2009 would be perfect for him and I hope his team and himself are smart enough to realize he needs time off.

    Also a comeback fight vs. a top conder would be good for him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CutMeMick View Post
    I complete disagree with him coming back this year.

    People need to realize this dudes been fight 3, 4 times a year for the past 4 yrs. or so. He's been fighting top level opposition since early in his career and he hasn't slowed down. When you go through that many fights a year for 4 yrs. or so it will def. take its toll on the body.

    Cotto needs time off and needs to take a vacation to clear the mind, take the kids somewhere fun and just relax for the rest of this year.

    A return early 2009 would be perfect for him and I hope his team and himself are smart enough to realize he needs time off.

    Also a comeback fight vs. someone like
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    You don't think people would pay to see a rematch right away? Do you live on earth?
    If so, then I guess people would pay to see a rematch right away to see Tyson vs Lewis II, Morales vs Pac IV, etc.
    I dont know anyone that thinks Cotto was humiliated.
    it was far from humiliating
    Everybody thinks the fight was close and that the stoppage and corner throwing the towel was unfair, far from humiliating really.
    He's been fighting top level opposition since early in his career and he hasn't slowed down.
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    Hhhhmmmm not sure if I can agree with him facing top level opposition. 2 guys passed their primes and coming from loosing streaks and everybody before that can we say past opponents were the greatest threats out there? Cotto finally faces a guy in his prime, young, etc. And things didn't go as expected.
    Like who?
    Oh please don't say Mayweather. We'll respect his retired status and focus on guys who are not retired
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    Chino,
    When you compare how fighters are brought up and and carried along the rankings it's easy to see Cotto fought good competition since early in his career. He was NOT fighting opponents who were debuting, he was fighting experienced oppostion. This can clearly be seen when you see his name on opponents record and before OR after him that same opponent fought the likes of JLC, PBF, Corrale, Popo, Manfredy who were already established fighters and he was just fighting in his 9th, 10th fight.

    When your fighting former world champs in just your 14th fight that really says something and Bazan after that went on a good wining streak.

    At 18-0 he stopped Sosa in 4 rounds, who had previously gone 12 with PBF and PBF was 29-0.

    That to me speaks volumes when your a prospect and your fighting the same level of opposition as the top fighters are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chino View Post
    You don't think people would pay to see a rematch right away? Do you live on earth?
    If so, then I guess people would pay to see a rematch right away to see Tyson vs Lewis II, Morales vs Pac IV, etc.
    I dont know anyone that thinks Cotto was humiliated.
    Everybody thinks the fight was close and that the stoppage and corner throwing the towel was unfair, far from humiliating really.
    He's been fighting top level opposition since early in his career and he hasn't slowed down.
    Welcome back CutMeMick!
    Hhhhmmmm not sure if I can agree with him facing top level opposition. 2 guys passed their primes and coming from loosing streaks and everybody before that can we say past opponents were the greatest threats out there? Cotto finally faces a guy in his prime, young, etc. And things didn't go as expected.
    Like who?
    Oh please don't say Mayweather. We'll respect his retired status and focus on guys who are not retired
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    Chino,

    I see this fight as more like Vasquez-Marquez2 than Lewis-Tyson2. Both guys are still in their primes. A stoppage shouldn't be humiliating, zero defect fans and announcers over exaggerate losses. Cotto lost and was injured in the fight, he has the skill to continue to compete at this level and the fight was very close until the 8th round. Even then he was fighting hard, just gassed out from swallowing his blood and the body work. Making changes to the game plan and training harder can easily change the outcome of the fight. I can't understand how an 11 round stoppage of a 12 round fight makes it non competetive and a rematch useless Maybe Hearns shouldn't have rematched Leonard, or did they wait too long? I think they need to do it again because it was a competetive, entertaining fight. And they need to do it soon because a fighters prime is a short window.

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    I won't complain if Cotto will take any of these available top (tough) welters; Clottey, Cintron or Williams...

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    I think the smartest thing is to have Cotto fight the least talented of the belt holders for a comeback. I realize they're all talented, and that's why they have belts, but the trainers have a good idea which opponent has the best chance to stylistically lose against Cotto.

    In my opinion berto is the safest choice for a comeback and still give Cotto the respect he deserves as a former champion.

    It will put him in a position to possibly win a belt, get back some confidence and get the fight/s he really wants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chino View Post
    I am not sure if people would pay to see a rematch right away with Tony after he lost clearly and in a humiliating way. If the fight was close then yeah, different story. Maybe have Cotto get a couple of victories here and there to elevate his status once again even if he fights guys passed their primes or a few journeymen like he has done already. He should be back soon, he's still young.

    I dont know anyone that thinks Cotto was humiliated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chino View Post
    I am not sure if people would pay to see a rematch right away with Tony after he lost clearly and in a humiliating way. If the fight was close then yeah, different story. Maybe have Cotto get a couple of victories here and there to elevate his status once again even if he fights guys passed their primes or a few journeymen like he has done already. He should be back soon, he's still young.

    it was far from humiliating

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    He should take the title away from Clottey.
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