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    Default Re: Miguel Cotto...

    Quote Originally Posted by CutMeMick View Post
    I complete disagree with him coming back this year.

    People need to realize this dudes been fight 3, 4 times a year for the past 4 yrs. or so. He's been fighting top level opposition since early in his career and he hasn't slowed down. When you go through that many fights a year for 4 yrs. or so it will def. take its toll on the body.

    Cotto needs time off and needs to take a vacation to clear the mind, take the kids somewhere fun and just relax for the rest of this year.

    A return early 2009 would be perfect for him and I hope his team and himself are smart enough to realize he needs time off.

    Also a comeback fight vs. someone like
    Like who?
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    You don't think people would pay to see a rematch right away? Do you live on earth?
    If so, then I guess people would pay to see a rematch right away to see Tyson vs Lewis II, Morales vs Pac IV, etc.
    I dont know anyone that thinks Cotto was humiliated.
    it was far from humiliating
    Everybody thinks the fight was close and that the stoppage and corner throwing the towel was unfair, far from humiliating really.
    He's been fighting top level opposition since early in his career and he hasn't slowed down.
    Welcome back CutMeMick!
    Hhhhmmmm not sure if I can agree with him facing top level opposition. 2 guys passed their primes and coming from loosing streaks and everybody before that can we say past opponents were the greatest threats out there? Cotto finally faces a guy in his prime, young, etc. And things didn't go as expected.
    Like who?
    Oh please don't say Mayweather. We'll respect his retired status and focus on guys who are not retired
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    Chino,
    When you compare how fighters are brought up and and carried along the rankings it's easy to see Cotto fought good competition since early in his career. He was NOT fighting opponents who were debuting, he was fighting experienced oppostion. This can clearly be seen when you see his name on opponents record and before OR after him that same opponent fought the likes of JLC, PBF, Corrale, Popo, Manfredy who were already established fighters and he was just fighting in his 9th, 10th fight.

    When your fighting former world champs in just your 14th fight that really says something and Bazan after that went on a good wining streak.

    At 18-0 he stopped Sosa in 4 rounds, who had previously gone 12 with PBF and PBF was 29-0.

    That to me speaks volumes when your a prospect and your fighting the same level of opposition as the top fighters are.

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    I wouldn't mind seeing him fight williams.
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    even if berto wasn't fighting forbes, i still don't think that it would be a good choice for him to fight cotto.. too much of a risk, and considering cotto is coming off of a loss it won't be as high regarded of a victory.. granted it would be a hell of a feat if berto beat cotto, but i just don't think this is the right time..

    Cintron got destroyed by margarito twice.. that is the only reason why i wouldn't be too excited to see him fight cotto.. woul dbe entertaining, but not the most exciting fight.

    I think PW is the fight right here. PW was undefeated until recently, and avenged his loss.. as far as i'm concerned PW is held in pretty high regard as far as credibility goes in the WW division, even though he lost to someone who he very soonafter KO'd in 1 round..

    so Cintron or PW for a comeback fight, and if i had to choose it would be PW.

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    Chino,
    When you compare how fighters are brought up and and carried along the rankings it's easy to see Cotto fought good competition since early in his career.
    Sure, but not sure if we can compare his resume to ODLH's or Floyd's. I went through his resume before and I just don’t see a comparable opposition to the already-mentioned. ODLH fought some big names from his 14th fight and up. I see some good competition in Cotto's resume but nobody THAT big. When he finally faced someone in his prime and a big name things didn't go as expected even when he faced journeymen. Some fighters come back strong after their first loss. Cotto is young and I can imagine him back on track to get back to his status. Hopefully, we'll see him facing top opposition this time and not just good competition.
    When your fighting former world champs in just your 14th fight that really says something and Bazan after that went on a good wining streak.
    Sure. Bazan had a decent punching power. Had a few losses under his belt when he faced Cotto and recently has been on a loosing streak. Recently lost in Las Vegas by KO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chino View Post
    Chino,
    When you compare how fighters are brought up and and carried along the rankings it's easy to see Cotto fought good competition since early in his career.
    Sure, but not sure if we can compare his resume to ODLH's or Floyd's. I went through his resume before and I just don’t see a comparable opposition to the already-mentioned. ODLH fought some big names from his 14th fight and up. I see some good competition in Cotto's resume but nobody THAT big. When he finally faced someone in his prime and a big name things didn't go as expected even when he faced journeymen. Some fighters come back strong after their first loss. Cotto is young and I can imagine him back on track to get back to his status. Hopefully, we'll see him facing top opposition this time and not just good competition.
    When your fighting former world champs in just your 14th fight that really says something and Bazan after that went on a good wining streak.
    Sure. Bazan had a decent punching power. Had a few losses under his belt when he faced Cotto and recently has been on a loosing streak. Recently lost in Las Vegas by KO.
    Now just look at that, it took the names of ODLH & PBF to be able to put Cottos career inot perspective as far as his accomplishments.
    Doesn't that tell you something?
    Those are 2 ATG and it took their careers to be able to compare it to what Cottos done. That says a lot.

    All I'm saying is he's been fighting 3, 4 times a year every year for the past 4 yrs. or so whether he likes it or not that will take it's toll on him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chino View Post
    You don't think people would pay to see a rematch right away? Do you live on earth?
    If so, then I guess people would pay to see a rematch right away to see Tyson vs Lewis II, Morales vs Pac IV, etc.
    I dont know anyone that thinks Cotto was humiliated.
    Everybody thinks the fight was close and that the stoppage and corner throwing the towel was unfair, far from humiliating really.
    He's been fighting top level opposition since early in his career and he hasn't slowed down.
    Welcome back CutMeMick!
    Hhhhmmmm not sure if I can agree with him facing top level opposition. 2 guys passed their primes and coming from loosing streaks and everybody before that can we say past opponents were the greatest threats out there? Cotto finally faces a guy in his prime, young, etc. And things didn't go as expected.
    Like who?
    Oh please don't say Mayweather. We'll respect his retired status and focus on guys who are not retired
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    Chino,

    I see this fight as more like Vasquez-Marquez2 than Lewis-Tyson2. Both guys are still in their primes. A stoppage shouldn't be humiliating, zero defect fans and announcers over exaggerate losses. Cotto lost and was injured in the fight, he has the skill to continue to compete at this level and the fight was very close until the 8th round. Even then he was fighting hard, just gassed out from swallowing his blood and the body work. Making changes to the game plan and training harder can easily change the outcome of the fight. I can't understand how an 11 round stoppage of a 12 round fight makes it non competetive and a rematch useless Maybe Hearns shouldn't have rematched Leonard, or did they wait too long? I think they need to do it again because it was a competetive, entertaining fight. And they need to do it soon because a fighters prime is a short window.

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    I really would like to see Cotto returning to fight with Clotey or Berto , i think this could be a good challenge for him , for beginning after a lose , that could show how mentally strongest he is after all.................

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    I won't complain if Cotto will take any of these available top (tough) welters; Clottey, Cintron or Williams...

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    Default Re: Miguel Cotto...

    I think the smartest thing is to have Cotto fight the least talented of the belt holders for a comeback. I realize they're all talented, and that's why they have belts, but the trainers have a good idea which opponent has the best chance to stylistically lose against Cotto.

    In my opinion berto is the safest choice for a comeback and still give Cotto the respect he deserves as a former champion.

    It will put him in a position to possibly win a belt, get back some confidence and get the fight/s he really wants.

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