On Bernard's.. 'physical condition'..

[Pugilistic]

If Hopkins felt any decline in his mental or physically abilities he would retire, Hopkins is a smart guy, he ain't going to take a fight with a big strong guy like Pavlik if he didn't think he could handle it. he will know when its time to call it quits.

[leftylee]

Hopkins needs to retire. He ain't got the stamnia or the speed now. The way he went so defensive after knocking down Calzaghe was pathetic.

[Tito BHB]

Hopkins needs to retire. He ain't got the stamnia or the speed now. The way he went so defensive after knocking down Calzaghe was pathetic.

..Shock horror...

[Scrap]

Most of the time its whats sacrificed to learn defensive skills. Most of the damage is done in the Gym learning Skills can be hard in certain Gyms.

[Tito BHB]

Most of the time its whats sacrificed to learn defensive skills. Most of the damage is done in the Gym learning Skills can be hard in certain Gyms.

Imagine all the beatings james toney took in the kronk before he made himself anywhere near polished in the ring..

Paulie Malignaggi often says in interviews.. i take a couple lumps in the gym so come fight time i won't have to.

[Scrap]

Pavliks is very Basic, but His Basics are superb

[Scrap]

In fact, if He sat down a bit more Hes the nearest thing Ive seen to Monzon for some time. in that Division.

[Pugilistic]

Hopkins needs to retire. He ain't got the stamnia or the speed now. The way he went so defensive after knocking down Calzaghe was pathetic.

Hopkins stamina has faded but as for his speed it is really good for a 43 year old. his handspeed is underrated to be honest.

Hopkins for a while now hasn't jumped on his opponents after knocking them down for a long time, he likes to stick to his gameplan.

[Scrap]

Lefty, He was on the Defensive when He had Joe over

[rjj tszyu]

Good thread. I think the only time Bernard has been clearly beaten was against Jones. All the rest I can make a case for him winning (even though I think that he just lost against Calzaghe) and he has never really taken many serious head shots or so it seems. But he has been around a long time and the other day I was watching Henry Cooper talking about Ali saying that his Parkinsons was actually caused by the way he used to ride the punches and kind of let them run behind his head and clip the back of his neck where there are a lot of nerves and so on. If this is true (and I am no doctor remember) then it seems that you don't have to be taking clean shots to get a serious illness from boxing.

He is 43 years old now and IMO has nothing left to prove in boxing. He is the longest reigning MW champ of all time, he moved upto LHW and took over there and last time out he probably run Joe Calzaghe the closest to being beat he has been in his career. For me it's time to retire or he will get hurt. The thing is Pavlik is the last person you want your defence to start failing against because with his power shots he can seriously hurt ANYBODY and sooner or later Hopkins' defence will fail. I just hope he gets through the fight with Pavlik OK but despite being something of an Hopkins fan I quite hope he loses then he might retire whereas if he wins I don't see it.

[Plopeater]

Hopkins has always been in good physical condition. Its just now the legs can't do what he wants them too