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    Default Re: if floyd were around during the 80s...

    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
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    @ 135
    id take duran against floyd anytime. if castillo can hit floyd with clean shots, imagine what more somebody like duran could do at 135. if duran can close the gap to leonard at 147, what something special floyd has got to keep duran at bay? footwork, speed and jabs? loz. duran at 135 would swarm all over him.

    @ 140
    benitez is the guy. you cant outbox a master boxer in his home division. floyd has the grace and speed but benitez is simply much better than him in many respects. he can box and mix it up (even with bigger guys) when need be. benitez has all the tools to beat floyd: power, forward offense, non-stop aggression, speed, grace and top notch defensive abilities. its not even close imo

    @ 147
    benitez, duran, leonard, hearns. no way floyd could win any of these fights.

    @154
    forget it. those guys wins against him anytime by murder
    Your an idiot, all these guys except Benitez you have validity in them beating Mayweather, but how you say it would happen.
    1) Duran couldn't close the gap against Leonard when Leonard moved in their second fight which is partly why Duran QUIT. Mayweather is faster at lightweight then Leonard was at welterweight, he is harder hit then Leonard, DUran fights nothing like Castillo, and at lightweight he wasn't the same defensive fighter he became later on.
    2) Benitez is not better then Floyd in any aspect except maybe punching power, Floyd has better speed, defensive abilities, stamina, offense, grace, balance, etc. Benitez was a great fighter, but he was a poor man's FLoyd Mayweather.
    3) Hearns, Duran, And Leonard at WW are valid people to beat Mayweather: But there is an honest argument for Mayweather to beat any of them.
    Hearns: Is impossible for a little man to outbox, but his inferior inside skills, and lack of stamina would be things Mayweather would take advantage of.
    Leonard: IMO the best of the 80's is fast, hits pretty hard, but he is telegraphed on the outside, but Benitez, Duran, etc. weren't fast enough to take advantage of that, and his flurry would be useless against Mayweather because they wouldn't land quickly. I could easily see LEoanrd winning on points by being more active, and his jab is a nightmare for Mayweather, but he is redundant in what he does in the ring and Mayweather would figure it out and make it close.
    Duran: Much better defensively by the time he reached the WW division, he honed his skills a lot more and he was a lot stronger by this point. I think he would try to fight the same fight he did against Leonard, and I honestly don't know how this fight goes. Hatton used a similar style against Mayweather, but despite HAtton being faster then DUran he is in no way Duran...

    That being said Its impossible to say where Mayweather compares to these because he dominated the opponents he fought just as much if not more then Leonard, DUran, Hagler, Hearns, etc. defeated what I would consider the same level of opponents they fought.

    Mayweather would not take the chance of getting witin hitting rang of Hearns to even attempt to outbox him on the inside....Leonard was a hell of a lot harder hitter then Floyd also...

    Agreed on the Hatton Duran comparison at 147 but at 135 even with the lack of defense Duran beats Floyd...at 147 actually might pick Floyd but funny enough at 154 the version of Duran that beat Davey Moore beats Floyd...Not that Moore was a better fighter then Floyd in any way just that Duran seemed rejuvinated
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    Default Re: if floyd were around during the 80s...

    Do you think the Duran that beat Leonard could not beat Mayweather at 147lb? I think Mayweather is a great at 135 and below but not above.
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    Default Re: if floyd were around during the 80s...

    I have a very tough time picking Mayweather over the Duran in Montreal, or the one who beat Palomino.

    Mayweather is a special fighter, so I think he'll have his moments and give Duran fits and be competitive, but as far as beating Duran?

    I'd make Mayweather the underdog.

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