Did Cotto quit (Please read first)

[XaduBoxer]

I will only label Cotto a "quitter" or "not a warrior" if he will quit again in a future fight...

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Excuse me people for quoting myself. I have to bring this up again since I was neg rep for this comment. I only have one question, will you label Cotto a "quitter" or "not a warrior" if he will do it again in a future fight?

If you quit once, it will not necessarily makes you a "quitter" but if you do it regularly then it's just right to call you a "quitter".

When you're under heavy attack and you can't take any more punishments since you're already totally zapped out then take a knee. It's the smartest form of quitting.

I wouldn't call any fighter 'quitter' its downright rude. Do it to Miguels face one day instead of in here all safe and sound and see who quits first. They are all their own men who dont have to bend over for the two bit fans who only want more blood or ko's, they do what they feel is right for their own progression in life.

I will call a boxer a "quitter" if he quit in several fights. But I will also objectively consider the reasons why he quit.

For me, quitting in more than one fight makes the boxer a "quitter".

[Spicoli]

To say he Quit in its truest form is an insult to both Cotto & Tony.When a man is beat physically,tired,exhausted,and finding no answers while being over whelmed ....he losses.Margarito put him in that position,brought him there.I have always had a problem believing a man Chooses to loss by his own hand.Cotto has honor and fought his heart out,NO quitter he but with big time respect, it was not his descision to make at that point! Be it devastating or not,a No-mas or a beat down.....Spoils and Respect as well to the victor.



Now, Rahman in the Toney Fight..............

[XaduBoxer]

quit, quit·ted, quit·ting
1. to stop, cease, or discontinue: She quit what she was doing to help me paint the house.
2. to depart from; leave (a place or person): They quit the city for the seashore every summer.
3. to give up or resign; let go; relinquish: He quit his claim to the throne. She quit her job.
4. to release one's hold of (something grasped).
5. to acquit or conduct (oneself).
6. to free or rid (oneself): to quit oneself of doubts.
7. to clear (a debt); repay. –verb (used without object)
8. to cease from doing something; stop.
9. to give up or resign one's job or position: He keeps threatening to quit.
10. to depart or leave.
11. to stop trying, struggling, or the like; accept or acknowledge defeat.

[Spicoli]

Yawn....Whats the matter,No Pac vs. DelaHoya circus to rave about Mr. Barnum

[Dizaster]

I think to make this whole thing simpler, the original topic should have been called, "I don't think cotto is a warrior because he took a knee"... That's what your opinion is...
Some people would say you need to be a warrior to even go 5 rounds with Margarito in the form he's been in.. Going a full 11 rounds and maintaining competitiveness throughout, even winning possibly half the rounds.. Taking some of Margarito's best drillings and still coming to the last minute... If that doesn't earn warrior status in someone's book, then they need a new book...
Taking a knee when under extreme pressure gives you a quick breather to regroup and try again to win the fight instead of getting knocked out right there.. It is as much strategy as anything..


Do you also take the win away from Coralles and say that he wasn't a warrior against Castillo because he spat out his mouthguard a few times to get a breather.... That fight was the definition of 2 warriors going at it... Both showed more heart that most people do in their entire lives... But i'm sure you'll find purpose to take that status away from Coralles as well...


Maybe you should step into the ring for a few round with someone who's got it over you, and see how long you can take punishing for....


I can truely name only FEW boxers who you could not call warriors...

[XaduBoxer]

Ha ha me getting negative rep for posting the definition or meaning of the word "quit"...

this is unbelievable...

[SweetPea]

Did Cotto quit? Ya, in some ways he did. He succumbed to the will of Margarito. In the 11th round, Cotto reached a point physically and mentally where he had nothing left to give and took a knee (twice) as a result. He made the conscious choice to drop to his knees.

But that doesn't mean Cotto lacks heart. He fought his ass off for 11 rounds, he just ran out of gas. It happens, even to good/great fighters.

[awdleyfuturehalloffamer]

Quitting after giving your all is better than quitting because things aren't going your way. I'd say cotto gave it his all. You can't blame a guy for quitting to avoid serious permanent damage. He gave it his all and it just wasn't enough against Margarito.

[Andre]

Excuse me people for quoting myself. I have to bring this up again since I was neg rep for this comment. I only have one question, will you label Cotto a "quitter" or "not a warrior" if he will do it again in a future fight?

If you quit once, it will not necessarily makes you a "quitter" but if you do it regularly then it's just right to call you a "quitter".

When you're under heavy attack and you can't take any more punishments since you're already totally zapped out then take a knee. It's the smartest form of quitting.

I wouldn't call any fighter 'quitter' its downright rude. Do it to Miguels face one day instead of in here all safe and sound and see who quits first. They are all their own men who dont have to bend over for the two bit fans who only want more blood or ko's, they do what they feel is right for their own progression in life.

I will call a boxer a "quitter" if he quit in several fights. But I will also objectively consider the reasons why he quit.

For me, quitting in more than one fight makes the boxer a "quitter".

Look it is mincing words,most of us in here fuk but people dont come up and call us fucker, out of plain respect and a certain intelligence linked to their survival.
Notice the word Quitter has the same context; its disrespectful (a label )because it has exactly the same intent behind it!
Quitters dont give it their best shot, quitters in the true sence of the word and how we all feel about it 'fold early'.
We need to leave the implication of being a chicken out of it cause its in there with the word quitter and you know it is.

[Dizaster]

I wouldn't call any fighter 'quitter' its downright rude. Do it to Miguels face one day instead of in here all safe and sound and see who quits first. They are all their own men who dont have to bend over for the two bit fans who only want more blood or ko's, they do what they feel is right for their own progression in life.

I will call a boxer a "quitter" if he quit in several fights. But I will also objectively consider the reasons why he quit.

For me, quitting in more than one fight makes the boxer a "quitter".

Look it is mincing words,most of us in here fuk but people dont come up and call us fucker, out of plain respect and a certain intelligence linked to their survival.
Notice the word Quitter has the same context; its disrespectful (a label )because it has exactly the same intent behind it!
Quitters dont give it their best shot, quitters in the true sence of the word and how we all feel about it 'fold early'.
We need to leave the implication of being a chicken out of it cause its in there with the word quitter and you know it is.

Exactly.... I mean, going by some sort of dictionary definition, you could say Floyd quit... If there is someone knocked out on the canvas, but there is 1% of them that can get up but 99% that can't, then they are a quiter for not using that 1% to get up... It's ridiculous..

It's also ridiculous to try to find a context in which you can use the word "quit" with regards to how the Cotto/Margarito fight ended.. Becuase you can find SOME context to call just about anything in life "quitting", but is it truely necessary to search for that context in order to make things negative?

In terms of boxing where two fighters in there with the potential of giving each other permanent brain damage, then our standards need to be a little bit fucking higher with throwing around words that have the purpose of degrading a boxers performance in such a way that the word quiter uses..
And prizefight boxing is the terms that we are talking here... Under those terms, the word quitter has very very little place... Especially in ANY 12 rounder..

[Addicted to_boxing]

Excuse me people for quoting myself. I have to bring this up again since I was neg rep for this comment. I only have one question, will you label Cotto a "quitter" or "not a warrior" if he will do it again in a future fight?

If you quit once, it will not necessarily makes you a "quitter" but if you do it regularly then it's just right to call you a "quitter".

When you're under heavy attack and you can't take any more punishments since you're already totally zapped out then take a knee. It's the smartest form of quitting.

I wouldn't call any fighter 'quitter' its downright rude. Do it to Miguels face one day instead of in here all safe and sound and see who quits first. They are all their own men who dont have to bend over for the two bit fans who only want more blood or ko's, they do what they feel is right for their own progression in life.

I will call a boxer a "quitter" if he quit in several fights. But I will also objectively consider the reasons why he quit.

For me, quitting in more than one fight makes the boxer a "quitter".

Well based on the definition SaddoBoxer provided and Miguel's reaction to Margarito's body shots early on and all his back peddling , and the end result yeah he quit. He stopped, ceased, or discontinued to attempt to take an offensive stand he chose to counter and run. So yeah he was quitting early on and flat out quit at the end and succumbed to Margarito's punishment


The better question is will his fans also quit on him, define that! Seems his fans have more faith than Cotto had on his abilities that night and tomorrow!

[rene69]

I will only label Cotto a "quitter" or "not a warrior" if he will quit again in a future fight...

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I agree, because once fighters call it a day like Cotto did...it just gets easier to quit from that point on. Remember Acelino Freitas.

[Mr140]

Well Saddo do you think that Duran not a warrior because he quite vs Sugar Ray Leonard just ask on what you think of that.

[rene69]

Well Saddo do you think that Duran not a warrior because he quite vs Sugar Ray Leonard just ask on what you think of that.

He's definately and exception.

[Mr140]

Why the exception according to waht you guys are saying he is a quiter he was not even that hurt just being outboxed and he just quite.