Roy Jones: the boxing genius

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So you consider Jones a better fighter P4P than Hearns and Duran? he is good but if Jones was a Welterweight i couldnt see him beating Hearns or if he were a Lightweight lasting 5rds with Duran.

Yes I do. I think that Roy would KO Hearns, too much skill and would be able to dodge his big power shots all night long and he would DO a similar if not better job on Duran as Leonard did in the second fight when he QUIT.

P4P? a rather strange comment seen as a prime Leonard couldnt get away from Hearns jab and right hand. And a Lightweight Duran was an animal i think Roys lack of workrate and lack of chin would be exposed.

Like i said if Roy fought those guys at there best weight. A win over James Toney and a gift over Antonio Tarver doesnt cut it for me im affraid. And again Leonard did things that Jones did and it was always against cans he could get away with it.

How many Roberto Duran fights have you actually seen ? because its well known fact Roberto Duran struggled with fast fighters or good movers.........

Why do you think he lost to mediocre fighters like Kirkland Laing and Davey Moore ? plus lets not forget he also got outboxed by Wilfredo Benitez.........

I agree with Thomas Hearns P4P he would be terrible style match up for Roy Jones Jr with his excellent jab and right hand over the top..........

And i honestly don't think you have studied up on Sugar Ray Leonard either he had some troubles with lesser fighters like Randy Shields and Floyd Mayweather Sr just to name a few........

And lets not forget he was also knocked down by journeyman Kevin Howard in 1984 and also received a tough fight............

You talk about Roy Jones Jr's close fight with Antonio Tarver which is exactly like Sugar Ray Leonard's robbery draw against Thomas Hearns in there rematch........

Meaning both fighters were past there prime at that point except Sugar Ray Leonard wasn't badly weight drained like Roy Jones Jr was.........

And i honestly don't think Antonio Tarver vs Roy Jones Jr 1 was that close i had Roy Jones Jr comfortably ahead by 3 rounds i thought the fight was pretty close after 10 rounds but Roy Jones Jr went into a 2nd gear and clearly won the last 2 rounds giving him a clear cut decision...........

I think many people consider this fight a gift for Roy Jones Jr because people had never seen Roy Jones Jr in a tough close fight at that time but i honestly didn't think it was that close........

Roy Jones Jr's career is much more than those 2 fights you mentioned how about winning Heavyweight title which hadn't been done in like 100 plus years or how about KO'ing Virgil Hill for the first time in his career with one body shot..........

Or beating Bernard Hopkins with one hand or KOing the very durable Thulani Malinga who should have 2 wins over Nigel Benn and also gave Chris Eubank a razor thin close fight and also beat Robin Reid when he was 40 plus the same Robin Reid who went on to give Joe Calzaghe his toughest fight...........

I think you actually need to watch more fights and actually learn a bit more because when you only mention those 2 fights your disrespecting Roy Jones Jr.

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How many Roberto Duran fights have you actually seen ? because its well known fact Roberto Duran struggled with fast fighters or good movers.........

Why do you think he lost to mediocre fighters like Kirkland Laing and Davey Moore ? plus lets not forget he also got outboxed by Wilfredo Benitez.........

I agree with Thomas Hearns P4P he would be terrible style match up for Roy Jones Jr with his excellent jab and right hand over the top..........

And i honestly don't think you have studied up on Sugar Ray Leonard either he had some troubles with lesser fighters like Randy Shields and Floyd Mayweather Sr just to name a few........

And lets not forget he was also knocked down by journeyman Kevin Howard in 1984 and also received a tough fight............

You talk about Roy Jones Jr's close fight with Antonio Tarver which is exactly like Sugar Ray Leonard's robbery draw against Thomas Hearns in there rematch........

Meaning both fighters were past there prime at that point except Sugar Ray Leonard wasn't badly weight drained like Roy Jones Jr was.........

And i honestly don't think Antonio Tarver vs Roy Jones Jr 1 was that close i had Roy Jones Jr comfortably ahead by 3 rounds i thought the fight was pretty close after 10 rounds but Roy Jones Jr went into a 2nd gear and clearly won the last 2 rounds giving him a clear cut decision...........

I think many people consider this fight a gift for Roy Jones Jr because people had never seen Roy Jones Jr in a tough close fight at that time but i honestly didn't think it was that close........

Roy Jones Jr's career is much more than those 2 fights you mentioned how about winning Heavyweight title which hadn't been done in like 100 plus years or how about KO'ing Virgil Hill for the first time in his career with one body shot..........

Or beating Bernard Hopkins with one hand or KOing the very durable Thulani Malinga who should have 2 wins over Nigel Benn and also gave Chris Eubank a razor thin close fight and also beat Robin Reid when he was 40 plus the same Robin Reid who went on to give Joe Calzaghe his toughest fight...........

I think you actually need to watch more fights and actually learn a bit more because when you only mention those 2 fights your disrespecting Roy Jones Jr.

I'd actually attribute those loses down to complacency and poor preparation.

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How many Roberto Duran fights have you actually seen ? because its well known fact Roberto Duran struggled with fast fighters or good movers.........

Why do you think he lost to mediocre fighters like Kirkland Laing and Davey Moore ? plus lets not forget he also got outboxed by Wilfredo Benitez.........

I agree with Thomas Hearns P4P he would be terrible style match up for Roy Jones Jr with his excellent jab and right hand over the top..........

And i honestly don't think you have studied up on Sugar Ray Leonard either he had some troubles with lesser fighters like Randy Shields and Floyd Mayweather Sr just to name a few........

And lets not forget he was also knocked down by journeyman Kevin Howard in 1984 and also received a tough fight............

You talk about Roy Jones Jr's close fight with Antonio Tarver which is exactly like Sugar Ray Leonard's robbery draw against Thomas Hearns in there rematch........

Meaning both fighters were past there prime at that point except Sugar Ray Leonard wasn't badly weight drained like Roy Jones Jr was.........

And i honestly don't think Antonio Tarver vs Roy Jones Jr 1 was that close i had Roy Jones Jr comfortably ahead by 3 rounds i thought the fight was pretty close after 10 rounds but Roy Jones Jr went into a 2nd gear and clearly won the last 2 rounds giving him a clear cut decision...........

I think many people consider this fight a gift for Roy Jones Jr because people had never seen Roy Jones Jr in a tough close fight at that time but i honestly didn't think it was that close........

Roy Jones Jr's career is much more than those 2 fights you mentioned how about winning Heavyweight title which hadn't been done in like 100 plus years or how about KO'ing Virgil Hill for the first time in his career with one body shot..........

Or beating Bernard Hopkins with one hand or KOing the very durable Thulani Malinga who should have 2 wins over Nigel Benn and also gave Chris Eubank a razor thin close fight and also beat Robin Reid when he was 40 plus the same Robin Reid who went on to give Joe Calzaghe his toughest fight...........

I think you actually need to watch more fights and actually learn a bit more because when you only mention those 2 fights your disrespecting Roy Jones Jr.

I'd actually attribute those loses down to complacency and poor preparation.

Oh so when Roy isn't properly prepared, its becuase he isn't as good as he was, but when LEonard or Benitez or Duran aren't prepared, its excusable?

Thats basically what your saying... Roy's body hasn't been prepared since he came back down from heavyweight, he permanently damaged his body, maybe not really evidently but enough in a sport like boxing that he moves just that little bit slower, which costs him.

Against Tarver that was an honest loss that he may have suffered earlier in his career because that was a perfect counter punch in the second fight, I felt Roy pretty much dominated the first fight, but people were so enamored by somebody standing any sort of a chance that they gave Tarver bs rounds.