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    Default Re: Hatton chased out of welterweight division

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigsexy
    Just read at boxingscene.com Hattons moving back down to 140 chased out by callazo OMG i cannot beleive it. That Hatton sure dont like to take any risks, which explains why he was brought along so carefully. what a shame i was looking forward to seeing him and Floyd mix it up.
    another overrated british fighter...what did you honestly expect? Collazo beat him...haton knows he received a gift from the judges and he's tucking tail and running...if he doesn't give Collazo a rematch than to hell with hatton and any of his fans....the only way he can save face at this point is to be a man and give Collazo his due shot....
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    Default Re: Hatton chased out of welterweight division

    Quote Originally Posted by bigragu
    the only way he can save face at this point is to be a man and give Collazo his due shot....
    Do you mean like Collazo did when he won the belt from Rivera on a SD

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    Default Re: Hatton chased out of welterweight division

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamGB
    If Hatton's style doesn't suit the weight how exactly has he been chased out? its called a brain... Had Collazo been a natural Light Welter like Ricky it would have been a different fight....

    Ricky tried to move up in weight but the way he boxes and his body are making it hard for him so he's done the sensible thing and moved to the weight he is good at... how is that chased exactly? Would you PBF fan boys say Floyd was 'chased' out of a weight division to heavy for his style of boxing or would you give him props for stepping up to a challenge?

    As for Ricky's 'storm' not coming... I always though there where American fighters at Light Welter? or is it a rule that Americans only fight at Welter weight? The fact is that Ricky Hatton is the best light Welter in the world at the moment...

    I still give Ricky a big chance of beating Floyd... Floyd is no where near as strong at the weight as Collazo because he's a natural ligh weight/light Welter like Ricky which would make Ricky's style a lot more effective.

    You guys know enough about boxing to know how hard moving up weights can be don't you? You've been in a ring and understand what it can be like? Instead if using Ricky struggling to move up and Floyd's style making it easy for him to move up.... to make Ricky look bad...

    How about using Ricky struggling to move up to make Floy'ds achievments look good?

    (stop hating on Ricky, he deserves as much respect as Floyd)
    Is it really that simple? His Style didn't fit WW or is it his skill. He moved up 1 class. Not 2 or 3. He can't handle 147 when the man walks around at 170 pounds that pathetic. Its saying that he can only beat guys smaller than him and he doesn't have the skill to compete with guys who are as big or bigger than him. I've seen great fighters move through multiple divisions but he can get through 1. Say what you want now but his plans were collazo,gatti/baldimor,and floyd. Those plans have suddenly changed. Why? Truth is collazo gave him all he can handle and he don't want no more. Hes leaving the division because that fight which leads me to say he was run out by collazo. And no he doesn't deserve the same respect as floyd. Floyd would give a rematch not run back to 140.
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    Default Re: Hatton chased out of welterweight division

    Quote Originally Posted by Feather Fisted
    Quote Originally Posted by bigragu
    the only way he can save face at this point is to be a man and give Collazo his due shot....
    Do you mean like Collazo did when he won the belt from Rivera on a SD
    Did rivera ask for a rematch. Better yet did anyone even care about collazo or rivera before this fight? No because they were paper champs.Hatton is suppose to be lb4lb. Alot of people thought he lost and he need to correct that. Thats what great fighters do.
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    Firstly can we get a few things straight. Americans know nothing about British fighters generally and Ricky Hatton in particular. Now i come to mention it they dont know much about anything. Please allow me to give an example. I play some internet poker, and questions i am often asked by them are: Do you celebrate xmas / easter over there? I have to explain to them that personally as an atheist, no i don't. " However all the religious freaks like you yanks do yeah " lmao Still i digress it was just an example of their mentality.
    They had Lennox down as a chicken, useless, horrible, anything you like really but he just kept beating up everything they threw at him,so know they will tell anyone stupid enough to listen to them that Dempsey would have beaten him Ali Tyson, Liston and probably the janitor at M.S.G. This from a people that believe in spacemen.

    That they can be so inherently STUPID as to question Ricky Hatton's courage is par for the course. They will conveniently forget that Mayweather would have sooner eaten his own arm than fought Kostya Tszyu and only took on Judah because the Russian knocked him down twice with the same shot.

    Mayweathyer is the same as all the rest of his so called fighting family as soon as he meets someone that hits him on the chin he will go to sleep.

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    Default Re: Hatton chased out of welterweight division

    Quote Originally Posted by Feather Fisted
    Quote Originally Posted by Bigsexy
    Just read at boxingscene.com Hattons moving back down to 140 chased out by callazo OMG i cannot beleive it. That Hatton sure dont like to take any risks, which explains why he was brought along so carefully. what a shame i was looking forward to seeing him and Floyd mix it up.
    You did fail to mention in your post the part of the article that said "The Manchester Evening News reports that Hatton is moving back down to 140 pounds, unless a bout with Floyd Mayweather, Jr. can be made." I personally dont think Ricky is ready to face PBF and may never be but thats not the point, he has not been chased anywhere its all just speculation.

    So in answer to your post I have a question.
    What would be the better move for Ricky, dropping down to 140 to face Castillo/Coralles or staying at 147 to fight Urkal?

    Nobody seems to mention that while Ricky and his team have the big say in who he fights as it stands at the moment HBO have the last word.
    Given that Castillo is set to fight Cotto after the Coralles fight anyway, it's a moot point. Career-wise, I think his best fight is against the winner of Gatti/Baldomir--especially if Gatti manages to win. There's way more exposure there, he stays at 147 to "grow into the weight" a bit more, and public demand returns for a Floyd match, which frankly is not the PBF match I'd most want to see after Ricky's performance last week.

    If Castillo beats Coralles, as I expect he will, then Ricky's what--going to (a) go down in weight to (b) call out Coralles after he's just lost again? That's not going to make him look great in anyone's eyes, especially considering that (c) Floyd beat the hell out of Coralles already, years ago, when he was far less shot.

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    Default Re: Hatton chased out of welterweight division

    Quote Originally Posted by Freddie
    Firstly can we get a few things straight. Americans know nothing about British fighters generally and Ricky Hatton in particular. Now i come to mention it they dont know much about anything. Please allow me to give an example. I play some internet poker, and questions i am often asked by them are: Do you celebrate xmas / easter over there? I have to explain to them that personally as an atheist, no i don't. " However all the religious freaks like you yanks do yeah " lmao Still i digress it was just an example of their mentality.
    They had Lennox down as a chicken, useless, horrible, anything you like really but he just kept beating up everything they threw at him,so know they will tell anyone stupid enough to listen to them that Dempsey would have beaten him Ali Tyson, Liston and probably the janitor at M.S.G. This from a people that believe in spacemen.

    That they can be so inherently STUPID as to question Ricky Hatton's courage is par for the course. They will conveniently forget that Mayweather would have sooner eaten his own arm than fought Kostya Tszyu and only took on Judah because the Russian knocked him down twice with the same shot.

    Mayweathyer is the same as all the rest of his so called fighting family as soon as he meets someone that hits him on the chin he will go to sleep.
    This is a very ignorant post. We are talking about Hatton the fighter and your talkin about americans as a whole. Get a life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MRMANICK
    Quote Originally Posted by Freddie
    Firstly can we get a few things straight. Americans know nothing about British fighters generally and Ricky Hatton in particular. Now i come to mention it they dont know much about anything. Please allow me to give an example. I play some internet poker, and questions i am often asked by them are: Do you celebrate xmas / easter over there? I have to explain to them that personally as an atheist, no i don't. " However all the religious freaks like you yanks do yeah " lmao Still i digress it was just an example of their mentality.
    They had Lennox down as a chicken, useless, horrible, anything you like really but he just kept beating up everything they threw at him,so know they will tell anyone stupid enough to listen to them that Dempsey would have beaten him Ali Tyson, Liston and probably the janitor at M.S.G. This from a people that believe in spacemen.

    That they can be so inherently STUPID as to question Ricky Hatton's courage is par for the course. They will conveniently forget that Mayweather would have sooner eaten his own arm than fought Kostya Tszyu and only took on Judah because the Russian knocked him down twice with the same shot.

    Mayweathyer is the same as all the rest of his so called fighting family as soon as he meets someone that hits him on the chin he will go to sleep.
    This is a very ignorant post. We are talking about Hatton the fighter and your talkin about americans as a whole. Get a life.
    I tried telling this fool the same thing in another thread that conviently dissapeared,He needs to get off the racist nationalistic crap he is spewing, but Freddie boy dosent have a clue so I guess us Americans should get our Beatles alblums and find A rock to crawl under!!!!

    Bet I could sway his opinions though with some Levi's Jeans and A good pair of Vintage Nike Air Jordans Give me your address Frederick LOL!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jtrock
    Quote Originally Posted by MRMANICK
    Quote Originally Posted by Freddie
    Firstly can we get a few things straight. Americans know nothing about British fighters generally and Ricky Hatton in particular. Now i come to mention it they dont know much about anything. Please allow me to give an example. I play some internet poker, and questions i am often asked by them are: Do you celebrate xmas / easter over there? I have to explain to them that personally as an atheist, no i don't. " However all the religious freaks like you yanks do yeah " lmao Still i digress it was just an example of their mentality.
    They had Lennox down as a chicken, useless, horrible, anything you like really but he just kept beating up everything they threw at him,so know they will tell anyone stupid enough to listen to them that Dempsey would have beaten him Ali Tyson, Liston and probably the janitor at M.S.G. This from a people that believe in spacemen.

    That they can be so inherently STUPID as to question Ricky Hatton's courage is par for the course. They will conveniently forget that Mayweather would have sooner eaten his own arm than fought Kostya Tszyu and only took on Judah because the Russian knocked him down twice with the same shot.

    Mayweathyer is the same as all the rest of his so called fighting family as soon as he meets someone that hits him on the chin he will go to sleep.
    This is a very ignorant post. We are talking about Hatton the fighter and your talkin about americans as a whole. Get a life.
    I tried telling this fool the same thing in another thread that conviently dissapeared, to get off the racist nationalistic crap he is spewing, but Freddie boy dosent have a clue so I guess us Americans just find A rock to crawl under!!!!

    Bet I could sway his opinions though with some Levi's Jeans and A good pair of Vintage Nike Jordans Give me your address LOL!!!!
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    WRONG I am far from Anti-American i am anti ignorance, and you Americans do not bother to do your research on any foriegn fighters. You just bad mouth all foriegn opposition in any events, and try and convince everyone else of your imagined superiority. As for your Levi's they are so last year, much like yourselves really.

    There are Americans on other threads calling young Hatton a gargoyle and a coward, but i dare say you think that is acceptable, and i suppose
    when some of your fighters and fans insult Britain and British people thats fine too. Get real the days of you bullying the world are a sick joke.If you dont like the heat get out of the kitchen, all the insults on these sites to a complete gentleman like Ricky Hatton are coming from America. That is not my opinion it is a fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freddie
    WRONG I am far from Anti-American i am anti ignorance, and you Americans do not bother to do your research on any foriegn fighters. You just bad mouth all foriegn opposition in any events, and try and convince everyone else of your imagined superiority. As for your Levi's they are so last year, much like yourselves really.

    Get real the days of you bullying the world are a sick joke.
    Certainly sounds anti-American.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shza
    Quote Originally Posted by Freddie
    WRONG I am far from Anti-American i am anti ignorance, and you Americans do not bother to do your research on any foriegn fighters. You just bad mouth all foriegn opposition in any events, and try and convince everyone else of your imagined superiority. As for your Levi's they are so last year, much like yourselves really.

    Get real the days of you bullying the world are a sick joke.
    Certainly sounds anti-American.
    Refer to us as 'You Americans' then say 'You this' and 'You that', all after saying I'm not Anti-American

    Wheres the anti-ignorance

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    Default Re: Hatton chased out of welterweight division

    Sorry i cant be held responsible for people's paranoia. The " you " was as in the alleged injured party, much quicker than typing America or American all the time.

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    Default Re: Hatton chased out of welterweight division

    Quote Originally Posted by MRMANICK
    Quote Originally Posted by AdamGB
    If Hatton's style doesn't suit the weight how exactly has he been chased out? its called a brain... Had Collazo been a natural Light Welter like Ricky it would have been a different fight....

    Ricky tried to move up in weight but the way he boxes and his body are making it hard for him so he's done the sensible thing and moved to the weight he is good at... how is that chased exactly? Would you PBF fan boys say Floyd was 'chased' out of a weight division to heavy for his style of boxing or would you give him props for stepping up to a challenge?

    As for Ricky's 'storm' not coming... I always though there where American fighters at Light Welter? or is it a rule that Americans only fight at Welter weight? The fact is that Ricky Hatton is the best light Welter in the world at the moment...

    I still give Ricky a big chance of beating Floyd... Floyd is no where near as strong at the weight as Collazo because he's a natural ligh weight/light Welter like Ricky which would make Ricky's style a lot more effective.

    You guys know enough about boxing to know how hard moving up weights can be don't you? You've been in a ring and understand what it can be like? Instead if using Ricky struggling to move up and Floyd's style making it easy for him to move up.... to make Ricky look bad...

    How about using Ricky struggling to move up to make Floy'ds achievments look good?

    (stop hating on Ricky, he deserves as much respect as Floyd)
    Is it really that simple? His Style didn't fit WW or is it his skill. He moved up 1 class. Not 2 or 3. He can't handle 147 when the man walks around at 170 pounds that pathetic. Its saying that he can only beat guys smaller than him and he doesn't have the skill to compete with guys who are as big or bigger than him. I've seen great fighters move through multiple divisions but he can get through 1. Say what you want now but his plans were collazo,gatti/baldimor,and floyd. Those plans have suddenly changed. Why? Truth is collazo gave him all he can handle and he don't want no more. Hes leaving the division because that fight which leads me to say he was run out by collazo. And no he doesn't deserve the same respect as floyd. Floyd would give a rematch not run back to 140.
    Ricky walks around at 170... What do you think other light Welters walk around at... what do you think the likes of Collazo walk around at?...

    Jesus christ...

    Ricky will have hardly put any more weight on after the weigh in... Collazao will have ballooned.

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    Default Re: Hatton chased out of welterweight division

    Quote Originally Posted by Freddie
    Sorry i cant be held responsible for people's paranoia. The " you " was as in the alleged injured party, much quicker than typing America or American all the time.


    So if you substitute in "America/Americans" for each "you," it somehow becomes anti-ignorant and not anti-American? I don't think anyone's being "paranoid" here--you're just not making any sense.

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