Was Roy Jones Jr lucky he never fought Michael Nunn ?

[El Kabong]

Eubank circa 1997 was past his best and slowing down while Roy was really reaching his peak dominant years. Also Eubank never really used his power the same after hurting Watson.


For those reasons I think Eubank would have only had 1 asset and that's speed and speed vs a PRIME Roy Jones Jr. really won't help much. I think Eubank is good early on and then fades late getting eaten up with counter shots.


Nigel Benn EARNED a DQ not only for being helped back int he ring but for hitting behind the head as often as he did! Roy Jones Jr. would have picked him apart but I still think James Toney would have had the best time with Benn, PERFECT style for James to abuse with his defense.


As for Nunn, I guess it's proper to compare him to Griffin, crafty southpaws who just couldn't stay consistent

[Hulk]

Nunn was lucky he never fought Roy Jones Jr.
Same with Benn, Eubank, Collins, and the rest of them.

Yall musta forgot!

Roy Jones Jr. was Superman. Speed Kills and Roy topped the most wanted list in the 90's.

[p4pking]

Nunn was lucky he never fought Roy Jones Jr.
Same with Benn, Eubank, Collins, and the rest of them.

Yall musta forgot!

Roy Jones Jr. was Superman. Speed Kills and Roy topped the most wanted list in the 90's.

I completely agree overall, but Eubank, Benn, and Collins were nowhere near the class of Michael nunn at his best, imo. You can't just completely write off and laugh hysterically at Nunn's chances like you can with Benn or Collins.

[Mr140]

Roy Jones Jr is lucky that he never had to face Micheal Spinks. Because he would of knocked Roy Jones Jr out Micheal Spinks had great power at LHW and could end fights with a punch and he was akward as they come would of love to see that fight though.

[Fenster]

I don't think Nunn was mentally tough enough to beat a prime RJJ.

I think Roy would have had the most trouble with Eubank but he would have pulled off a win.

I think McClellan showed that Benn was VERY beatable....the G-Man just let him back in the fight and stayed too close to him allowing for the repeated shots on the back of the head....Roy would have stopped him in 6-8. Benn's legs would have been shot from trying to walk Roy down and everytime he would get close he'd eat 4-5 power punches

You know what annoys me about the G-Man v Benn fight? The tragedy could have been avoided had the rules been followed by the book!

When a fighter is knocked from the ring the rules state that he must return UNAIDED to the ring apron within the ten count if it is deemed a knockdown which when G-Man knocked Benn through the ropes it was. But if you watch there are numerous people helping Benn back to his feet and therefore he should have been DQ'd.

I know this is not the point of this thread but everytime I think of that fight I cant help but think about this!

You need to watch the fight again. What you currently believe is utter bollocks.

[p4pking]

I don't think Nunn was mentally tough enough to beat a prime RJJ.

I think Roy would have had the most trouble with Eubank but he would have pulled off a win.

I think McClellan showed that Benn was VERY beatable....the G-Man just let him back in the fight and stayed too close to him allowing for the repeated shots on the back of the head....Roy would have stopped him in 6-8. Benn's legs would have been shot from trying to walk Roy down and everytime he would get close he'd eat 4-5 power punches

You know what annoys me about the G-Man v Benn fight? The tragedy could have been avoided had the rules been followed by the book!

When a fighter is knocked from the ring the rules state that he must return UNAIDED to the ring apron within the ten count if it is deemed a knockdown which when G-Man knocked Benn through the ropes it was. But if you watch there are numerous people helping Benn back to his feet and therefore he should have been DQ'd.

I know this is not the point of this thread but everytime I think of that fight I cant help but think about this!

You need to watch the fight again. What you currently believe is utter bollocks.

Noone really helped Benn back into the ring, and if a fighter is knocked outside the ropes I believe he has 20 seconds to make the count, not 10. There was definetly no contraversy on the count. HOWEVER, the way the ref handled the next couple minutes of action was disgraceful homecooking and Benn easily may have not made it out of the round otherwise imo. He was still extremely hurt for the next minute or so after the KD, and the ref clearly broke the action for far to long in several instances. Of course it happens in boxing, the outcome of this fight just makes people more bitter about it imo.

[Drago]

eubank, benn & collins never fought roy jones & i think the reason was that roy didnt wanna fight them.

eubank fought -watson, benn, collins, calzaghe
benn fought -watson, eubank, barkley, mcclellan, collins
collins fought-mcCallum, benn, eubank & before an injury was to meet calzaghe

based on this why wouldnt they wanna fight roy?

more chance one man running from 3, than 3 running from one!

[Fenster]

You know what annoys me about the G-Man v Benn fight? The tragedy could have been avoided had the rules been followed by the book!

When a fighter is knocked from the ring the rules state that he must return UNAIDED to the ring apron within the ten count if it is deemed a knockdown which when G-Man knocked Benn through the ropes it was. But if you watch there are numerous people helping Benn back to his feet and therefore he should have been DQ'd.

I know this is not the point of this thread but everytime I think of that fight I cant help but think about this!

You need to watch the fight again. What you currently believe is utter bollocks.

Noone really helped Benn back into the ring, and if a fighter is knocked outside the ropes I believe he has 20 seconds to make the count, not 10. There was definetly no contraversy on the count. HOWEVER, the way the ref handled the next couple minutes of action was disgraceful homecooking and Benn easily may have not made it out of the round otherwise imo. He was still extremely hurt for the next minute or so after the KD, and the ref clearly broke the action for far to long in several instances. Of course it happens in boxing, the outcome of this fight just makes people more bitter about it imo.

I think that's the case.

People/fans are complaining about poor, inept reffing every other fight.. with a tradegy occurring the focus on the ref multiplies, obviously.

[Master]

Roy Jones Jr is lucky that he never had to face Micheal Spinks. Because he would of knocked Roy Jones Jr out Micheal Spinks had great power at LHW and could end fights with a punch and he was akward as they come would of love to see that fight though.

Roy may not have been the greatest light heavy ever, but he unified the titles and grew into the weight. On the day he beat Montell and got the revenge, he certainly was a force that would have beat any Benn, Collins, Eubanks and Galzaghe.

[C.J.Rock]

Jones was lucky he was allowed to handpick his opponents, but theres another edge to this sword. In doing so he destroyed his own legacy. He could have been remembered as the greatest ever boxer but instead he's remembered more for who he avoided than who he beat

[Preme]

Can see how anyone could argue Eubank would of beaten him when Chris said he didn't want to fight roy for anything other than stupid money.

He knew he had little chance, with that mentality alone how could he win?

[donnydarkoIRL]

Can see how anyone could argue Eubank would of beaten him when Chris said he didn't want to fight roy for anything other than stupid money.

He knew he had little chance, with that mentality alone how could he win?

Eubank claimed that Jones would have beaten him, but he would have put up a tremendous fight.

He said had he been asked he would not have refused the fight.

[Taeth]

I dont know if I can say Jones was lucky not to have met Nunn cuz IMO Jones is possibly the greatest ever so I think he would have won . He beat Hop and Toney and I think he probably would have outpointed Nunn too .

Having said that I reckon Nunn would have been a nightmare for him . Jones got Mcallum at the right time, He'd have stopped Benn and outpointed Eubank and Mclennan IMO but Nunn would have given him hell and it would be a close fight . Interestingly Collins said that if he were to meet Jones back in the 90s he probably would have lost . Prime Roy is just something else.

Watching Michael Nunn before the Iran Barkley fight he was something special and had great reflexes and handspeed that is up there with Roy Jones Jr........

If Michael Nunn would have stayed away from drugs he would have given Roy Jones Jr a hell of a fight because of his height speed reflexes he truly was special before he messed his life up.

He was good, but neither his handspeed nor his reflexes were at Roy's level, they were good, but not quite that good.

[Taeth]

Jones was lucky he was allowed to handpick his opponents, but theres another edge to this sword. In doing so he destroyed his own legacy. He could have been remembered as the greatest ever boxer but instead he's remembered more for who he avoided than who he beat

Wow, I am glad half of you know nothing about Roy JOnes Jr. ... First of all none of those guys would fight him. WHen he was p4p king and before the Pazienza fight I believe he got HBO to try and get any fight made 60-40 against Eubanks, Benn, Hopkins, and a few others, or 70-30 against a few other guys people wanted to see him fight, and everybody turned it down. Nobody would fight Roy unless they got 50-50 which is basically saying they didn't want to fight him. You watch B-Hop negotiate with Roy he has always wanted 50-50, even when Roy was way more accomplished that is complete bs. Even Calzaghe wouldn't fight Roy in the states.

You guys can say Roy dodged guys all you want, but they didn't want to fight him.