liston ali and the mob

[ICB]

I don't care what anyone says the 2nd fight was for certain fixed if i remember rightly thats why only 2'000+ people only went to see the fight or something like that.........

The punch was done on a show with computers to show you from different angles how the punch landed and it was only grazing shot and the whole idea of Sonny Liston being afraid of crazy people is not a good excuse at all and it just seems to me like Muhammad Ali fans are grasping at straws with that comment..........

Sonny Liston used to get hit over the head with batons in prison and guards struggled to get him down do people really believe a grazing shot from Muhammad Ali would do all that to Sonny Liston ? and did you see how Sonny Liston acted on the floor stumbling on the canvas like he had been shot by a shotgun please.

[The Fightfan]

I don't care what anyone says the 2nd fight was for certain fixed if i remember rightly thats why only 2'000+ people only went to see the fight or something like that.........

The punch was done on a show with computers to show you from different angles how the punch landed and it was only grazing shot and the whole idea of Sonny Liston being afraid of crazy people is not a good excuse at all and it just seems to me like Muhammad Ali fans are grasping at straws with that comment..........

Sonny Liston used to get hit over the head with batons in prison and guards struggled to get him down do people really believe a grazing shot from Muhammad Ali would do all that to Sonny Liston ? and did you see how Sonny Liston acted on the floor stumbling on the canvas like he had been shot by a shotgun please.

Basically I stated pretty much all of that so thankyou for making a little bit more clear then I could. To whomever stated they found that it was a flush shot where is the evidence?. No where there is not a clear shot of it anywhere The only people who seen where ALi's corner. As for the first fight to look back. There are many interview's with Angelo Dundee two especially that contradict the first fight.In the interview Angelo say's Muhammed came back to the corner saying his eye's were burning so he stuck his finger in his eyes put it in his eye's and it burned indicating Liston had put something on the gloves.Hell even the movie say's Liston put something on his gloves.The second interview the interviewer asks do you think Liston did anything to his gloves.Angelo says no it was just getting hit in the eye and it started to swell, so I gave him 1 instruction RUN.

[Mad_Dog]

I dunno if it was fixed, maybe....but that punch was not a strong enough punch to ko Liston.

he coulda just gave up... cause he was frustrated...kinda like Tyson only he did not bite