Thanks for another shot Mr.Saddo !

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

This should be in the off topic board.

[ICB]

Im gonna voice my opinion on this and not to sound nasty but i found this utter rubbish i couldn't careless who you train and i couldn't careless about Andrew Hartley either your both deluded to the point of ridiculous i do Amateur boxing and i just shut up and do what im supposed to do i don't see why you feel the need to brag on here nor do i see the reason why Andrew Hartley does...........

The fact is Andrew Hartley is like the Mini Cooper of boxing talking himself up like he is Ferrari now i haven't got any problem with fighters who have confidence but the cockiness i keep seeing is just plain silly when he isn't even good at it has to be said he will get seriously hurt with people like you just using him because you can manupliate him because you even said yourself he is a simple kid so why not just let him train for a good 6 months instead of throwing him into the lions den to take a beating and getting embarrassed..........

And you as a trainer should be ashamed of yourself what kind of trainer goes on a boxing forum looking for fights that just shows your mentality and how much you care for the sport and you have basically made your name off some kid who obviously hasn't got skill and doesn't belong in the ring look for fame somewhere else this is respected forum with real boxers on here and we don't need this kind of nonsense on the main board.

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

Im gonna voice my opinion on this and not to sound nasty but i found this utter rubbish i couldn't careless who you train and i couldn't careless about Andrew Hartley either your both deluded to the point of ridiculous i do Amateur boxing and i just shut up and do what im supposed to do i don't see why you feel the need to brag on here nor do i see the reason why Andrew Hartley does...........

The fact is Andrew Hartley is like the Mini Cooper of boxing talking himself up like he is Ferrari now i haven't got any problem with fighters who have confidence but the cockiness i keep seeing is just plain silly when he isn't even good at it has to be said he will get seriously hurt with people like you just using him because you can manupliate him because you even said yourself he is a simple kid so why not just let him train for a good 6 months instead of throwing him into the lions den to take a beating and getting embarrassed..........

And you as a trainer should be ashamed of yourself what kind of trainer goes on a boxing forum looking for fights that just shows your mentality and how much you care for the sport and you have basically made your name off some kid who obviously hasn't got skill and doesn't belong in the ring look for fame somewhere else this is respected forum with real boxers on here and we don't need this kind of nonsense on the main board.

ICB, ever hitting the nail on the head. Rep this man!

[Trainer Monkey]

Im gonna voice my opinion on this and not to sound nasty but i found this utter rubbish i couldn't careless who you train and i couldn't careless about Andrew Hartley either your both deluded to the point of ridiculous i do Amateur boxing and i just shut up and do what im supposed to do i don't see why you feel the need to brag on here nor do i see the reason why Andrew Hartley does...........

The fact is Andrew Hartley is like the Mini Cooper of boxing talking himself up like he is Ferrari now i haven't got any problem with fighters who have confidence but the cockiness i keep seeing is just plain silly when he isn't even good at it has to be said he will get seriously hurt with people like you just using him because you can manupliate him because you even said yourself he is a simple kid so why not just let him train for a good 6 months instead of throwing him into the lions den to take a beating and getting embarrassed..........


And you as a trainer should be ashamed of yourself what kind of trainer goes on a boxing forum looking for fights that just shows your mentality and how much you care for the sport and you have basically made your name off some kid who obviously hasn't got skill and doesn't belong in the ring look for fame somewhere else this is respected forum with real boxers on here and we don't need this kind of nonsense on the main board.

Look at the early records of any of your fave fighters Ice,they barely have time to heal the bruises before their ass is back in the ring. Welcome to the lower level of boxing. You dont have to like it,its the way it is,I generally buy my fighters more time then most,but if you dont awnser the phone,the phone stops ringing real quick like. Its just the way it is.

[Gandalf]

Im gonna voice my opinion on this and not to sound nasty but i found this utter rubbish i couldn't careless who you train and i couldn't careless about Andrew Hartley either your both deluded to the point of ridiculous i do Amateur boxing and i just shut up and do what im supposed to do i don't see why you feel the need to brag on here nor do i see the reason why Andrew Hartley does...........

The fact is Andrew Hartley is like the Mini Cooper of boxing talking himself up like he is Ferrari now i haven't got any problem with fighters who have confidence but the cockiness i keep seeing is just plain silly when he isn't even good at it has to be said he will get seriously hurt with people like you just using him because you can manupliate him because you even said yourself he is a simple kid so why not just let him train for a good 6 months instead of throwing him into the lions den to take a beating and getting embarrassed..........

And you as a trainer should be ashamed of yourself what kind of trainer goes on a boxing forum looking for fights that just shows your mentality and how much you care for the sport and you have basically made your name off some kid who obviously hasn't got skill and doesn't belong in the ring look for fame somewhere else this is respected forum with real boxers on here and we don't need this kind of nonsense on the main board.

Well said. Keep this shit off the main boards. Hartley and all that crap can keep hidden where it belongs because it is not boxing.

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

Stacy,

I'd like to ask you a few questions if I may.

I saw a youtube clip of you defending your opperation insisting that evryone should have the right to step into the ring... Although I agree with you, I'd like to ask you about a few of the things said in that clip.

At one point you stated that you "do what you do" so that your everyday working man can step into the ring. You said that it's the "silly" commisions that bar fighters that lack funds fromstepping into the ring... Things like medical and equipment costs keep fighters in other states out of the ring.

You don't see this as dangerous? You think that a properly qualified, trained and medically sound fighter not be the only people allowed to fight profesionally?

Statements like this are the type that make your opperation seem like a farse.

Here it is in your words for posterity
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QS-ve...wpm&pmid=62333

[SOB]

Statements like this are the type that make your opperation seem like a farse.

Well sir , I believe that we are endowed by our Creator
with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit
of Happiness. That to secure these Rights, Governments are instituted
among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.
And when one believes in this and he or she is an American that he has
to give a fighter a choice. But your belief is like saying George Bush and
his friends at the Gas company are raising Gas Prices to help with Auto
accidents .True less Middle Class American will be able to afford to drive
anywhere other than to work , But I really don't think that is enough
reason to make it were only rich and famous people should be able to
afford to drive and enjoy life. The same about boxing , I have been
only KOED(Were the referee counts to 10 )once and that was against
Donny LaLonde and I suffered a bad bad eye injury were I thought
I was gonna be blind because of that hard right hand that SOB has.
So I did not think about getting up ! But now I have been TKO'd
many times for being over matched or out of shape!And I have
never had one MRI. And you know what I don't want one ! Not even a little
one!Because I feel fine and it cost $1500 in my state ! Someday you need
to read the whole story about boxing because the millionaires from HBO and
PPV are only the cover of the book, And people making money to
pay house payments , Shut Off notices and just help feed
the family is whats in the beginning , middle and ending of it!




Thanks
Stacy Goodnight Goodson

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

Statements like this are the type that make your opperation seem like a farse.

Well sir , I believe that we are endowed by our Creator
with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit
of Happiness. That to secure these Rights, Governments are instituted
among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.
And when one believes in this and he or she is an American that he has
to give a fighter a choice. But your belief is like saying George Bush and
his friends at the Gas company are raising Gas Prices to help with Auto
accidents .True less Middle Class American will be able to afford to drive
anywhere other than to work , But I really don't think that is enough
reason to make it were only rich and famous people should be able to
afford to drive and enjoy life. The same about boxing , I have been
only KOED(Were the referee counts to 10 )once and that was against
Donny LaLonde and I suffered a bad bad eye injury were I thought
I was gonna be blind because of that hard right hand that SOB has.
So I did not think about getting up ! But now I have been TKO'd
many times for being over matched or out of shape!And I have
never had one MRI. And you know what I don't want one ! Not even a little
one!Because I feel fine and it cost $1500 in my state ! Someday you need
to read the whole story about boxing because the millionaires from HBO and
PPV are only the cover of the book, And people making money to
pay house payments , Shut Off notices and just help feed
the family is whats in the beginning , middle and ending of it!




Thanks
Stacy Goodnight Goodson

Granted that people throughout history have shown that boxing is the perfect social experiment... It show Italian, Irish and Black fighters fighting through monitary duress in order to feed their families and this all happened at different times showing us the state of affairs with a given demographic over time...

It's what made boxing the way that it is... The sport that it is.

This is not to say that things don't evolve.

Whether you think it's right or not there is a reason why fighters have physicals and MRIs and reflex tests. It's to keep the fighters safe, not to keep them down.

The way you're looking at the sport is as if the government says "to hell with the common man"... That's not it at all. It's saying to hell with ring deaths... To hell with Cerebral Hemotomas... To hell with seeing guys end up like Gerald McClellan...

The sport does not need anymore black eyes... It has enough.

That's why energy should be spent to form a boxing union... Not to promote regular joes who don't have enough money for medical bills getting in the ring and getting themselves or the other guy hurt.

[Trainer Monkey]

Statements like this are the type that make your opperation seem like a farse.

Well sir , I believe that we are endowed by our Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit
of Happiness. That to secure these Rights, Governments are instituted
among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.
And when one believes in this and he or she is an American that he has
to give a fighter a choice. But your belief is like saying George Bush and
his friends at the Gas company are raising Gas Prices to help with Auto
accidents .True less Middle Class American will be able to afford to drive
anywhere other than to work , But I really don't think that is enough
reason to make it were only rich and famous people should be able to
afford to drive and enjoy life. The same about boxing , I have been
only KOED(Were the referee counts to 10 )once and that was against
Donny LaLonde and I suffered a bad bad eye injury were I thought
I was gonna be blind because of that hard right hand that SOB has.
So I did not think about getting up ! But now I have been TKO'd
many times for being over matched or out of shape!And I have
never had one MRI. And you know what I don't want one ! Not even a little
one!Because I feel fine and it cost $1500 in my state ! Someday you need
to read the whole story about boxing because the millionaires from HBO and
PPV are only the cover of the book, And people making money to
pay house payments , Shut Off notices and just help feed
the family is whats in the beginning , middle and ending of it!




Thanks
Stacy Goodnight Goodson

I keep trying to explain this concept to people,fighting in the dirty south isnt the way it is in the rest of the country,or the world for that matter.Its hard scrabble on a good day.

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

Statements like this are the type that make your opperation seem like a farse.

Well sir , I believe that we are endowed by our Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit
of Happiness. That to secure these Rights, Governments are instituted
among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.
And when one believes in this and he or she is an American that he has
to give a fighter a choice. But your belief is like saying George Bush and
his friends at the Gas company are raising Gas Prices to help with Auto
accidents .True less Middle Class American will be able to afford to drive
anywhere other than to work , But I really don't think that is enough
reason to make it were only rich and famous people should be able to
afford to drive and enjoy life. The same about boxing , I have been
only KOED(Were the referee counts to 10 )once and that was against
Donny LaLonde and I suffered a bad bad eye injury were I thought
I was gonna be blind because of that hard right hand that SOB has.
So I did not think about getting up ! But now I have been TKO'd
many times for being over matched or out of shape!And I have
never had one MRI. And you know what I don't want one ! Not even a little
one!Because I feel fine and it cost $1500 in my state ! Someday you need
to read the whole story about boxing because the millionaires from HBO and
PPV are only the cover of the book, And people making money to
pay house payments , Shut Off notices and just help feed
the family is whats in the beginning , middle and ending of it!




Thanks
Stacy Goodnight Goodson

I keep trying to explain this concept to people,fighting in the dirty south isnt the way it is in the rest of the country,or the world for that matter.Its hard scrabble on a good day.

But that doesn't mean it's right... so I reiterate...


Granted that people throughout history have shown that boxing is the perfect social experiment... It show Italian, Irish and Black fighters fighting through monitary duress in order to feed their families and this all happened at different times showing us the state of affairs with a given demographic over time...

It's what made boxing the way that it is... The sport that it is.

This is not to say that things don't evolve.

Whether you think it's right or not there is a reason why fighters have physicals and MRIs and reflex tests. It's to keep the fighters safe, not to keep them down.

The way you're looking at the sport is as if the government says "to hell with the common man"... That's not it at all. It's saying to hell with ring deaths... To hell with Cerebral Hemotomas... To hell with seeing guys end up like Gerald McClellan...

The sport does not need anymore black eyes... It has enough.

That's why energy should be spent to form a boxing union... Not to promote regular joes who don't have enough money for medical bills getting in the ring and getting themselves or the other guy hurt.

[SOB]

Im gonna voice my opinion on this and not to sound nasty but i found this utter rubbish i couldn't careless who you train!
.

Well thanks you for your response kind sir , Sorry if I have offended you
with were I put my apology to Saddo , Like I said in my other post I will
only make post in the Off Topic forum from now on because all I have did
in boxing in the last 20 years is obviously off topic !But you should know
I am not Kid Thunders Trainer. I am his friend and I have told him to
train and if I see he is not training again before Oct 18th he will not
fight then, as his friend I don't want him to get hurt either.But you
should also know I am a fighter/promoter , I mostly promote now
because of my age and surgeries on my body of the last few
years do to boxing , But the main reason is because no body
else promoted the middle class American fighters anymore.
And middle class fighters with working a full time job cant
afford to train as much as the fighters you love so much off T.V. !
yes other than keeping the country alive we find it hard
to get the same advantages as say convected felon Bernard
Hopkins who learned to fight while Middle Class Americans
paid for his room and board for how ever many years it took!
WOW , Now that don't seem fair! But I again I am sorry I posted
it was my fault and I will not do it again !OK ?

Your Off Topic Boxing Man Friend
Stacy"Goodnight"Goodson

[Trainer Monkey]

Im gonna voice my opinion on this and not to sound nasty but i found this utter rubbish i couldn't careless who you train!
.

Well thanks you for your response kind sir , Sorry if I have offended you
with were I put my apology to Saddo , Like I said in my other post I will
only make post in the Off Topic forum from now on because all I have did
in boxing in the last 20 years is obviously off topic !But you should know
I am not Kid Thunders Trainer. I am his friend and I have told him to
train and if I see he is not training again before Oct 18th he will not
fight then, as his friend I don't want him to get hurt either.But you
should also know I am a fighter/promoter , I mostly promote now
because of my age and surgeries on my body of the last few
years do to boxing , But the main reason is because no body
else promoted the middle class American fighters anymore.
And middle class fighters with working a full time job cant
afford to train as much as the fighters you love so much off T.V. !
yes other than keeping the country alive we find it hard
to get the same advantages as say convected felon Bernard
Hopkins who learned to fight while Middle Class Americans
paid for his room and board for how ever many years it took!
WOW , Now that don't seem fair! But I again I am sorry I posted
it was my fault and I will not do it again !OK ?

Your Off Topic Boxing Man Friend
Stacy"Goodnight"Goodson

Dont worry about Andrew son,if he's doing what I told him to,he is suffering abuse plain and simple. And considering every time I call him,he's flat out exhausted,and is promising me he's doing the work(which should make you sound exhausted,your training for a boxing match not a Flea Market) you'll get a different Andrew this time.

[SOB]

Dont worry about Andrew son,if he's doing what I told him to,he is suffering abuse plain and simple. And considering every time I call him,he's flat out exhausted,and is promising me he's doing the work(which should make you sound exhausted,your training for a boxing match not a Flea Market) you'll get a different Andrew this time.

Well I hate to be a profit of doubt , but know this
if Andrew is gonna be in charge of getting the training
on it will be staying off !Because his un ability to
stay focused on the task at hand !

[Trainer Monkey]

Dont worry about Andrew son,if he's doing what I told him to,he is suffering abuse plain and simple. And considering every time I call him,he's flat out exhausted,and is promising me he's doing the work(which should make you sound exhausted,your training for a boxing match not a Flea Market) you'll get a different Andrew this time.

Well I hate to be a profit of doubt , but know this
if Andrew is gonna be in charge of getting the training
on it will be staying off !Because his un ability to
stay focused on the task at hand !

Theres a reason I call the boy daily,if the whip dont crack,the fighter will slack

[SOB]

This should be in the off topic board.

Well I don't see it that way kind Sir , Let me a explain !When a guy that
fought Donny Lalonde , Juliun Letterlough , and about 90 more
other pro fighters and Promoted such fighters as Shannon Briggs
,Herbie Hide , Jameel McCline ,Joe Messi and Hundreds of other fighters
from around the world in the 42 shows he promoted ,while his own wife is
the WIBF minimum weight Champion of the world wants to apologize
to the owner of a Pro boxing website for his conduct . I find it kind of
strange you consider it the same as say a topic about Paris Hilton
that it should be on the Off Topic Forum !Must be that superior
knowledge of the sport you have over me I guess , But like
I said to Saddo I will not cause any trouble , And plus I am sure
if I reply back to much you will just try and get me banned
again because you don't want people to question your superior
knowledge over me ! So thanks for your input Mr.Boxing ,
I will just do all my post in the Off Topic forum from now on
but once everybody starts coming here I hope you don't start
up it again !


Thanks again for your time
Stacy"Goodnight"Goodson