Thanks for another shot Mr.Saddo !

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

I keep trying to explain this concept to people,fighting in the dirty south isnt the way it is in the rest of the country,or the world for that matter.Its hard scrabble on a good day.

But that doesn't mean it's right... so I reiterate...


Granted that people throughout history have shown that boxing is the perfect social experiment... It show Italian, Irish and Black fighters fighting through monitary duress in order to feed their families and this all happened at different times showing us the state of affairs with a given demographic over time...

It's what made boxing the way that it is... The sport that it is.

This is not to say that things don't evolve.

Whether you think it's right or not there is a reason why fighters have physicals and MRIs and reflex tests. It's to keep the fighters safe, not to keep them down.

The way you're looking at the sport is as if the government says "to hell with the common man"... That's not it at all. It's saying to hell with ring deaths... To hell with Cerebral Hemotomas... To hell with seeing guys end up like Gerald McClellan...

The sport does not need anymore black eyes... It has enough.

That's why energy should be spent to form a boxing union... Not to promote regular joes who don't have enough money for medical bills getting in the ring and getting themselves or the other guy hurt.

Did I say it was right?
It isnt right that coal trains loaded to the gills drive right buy miners who live in run down trailers
But its the way it is
And lets face it the 900 bucks we made in Sacremento filled the oil tank and bought a ton of food for the year
And we're relatively high end for this business

Right, but your fighters are propperly prepared and trained, correct?

[Trainer Monkey]

But that doesn't mean it's right... so I reiterate...


Granted that people throughout history have shown that boxing is the perfect social experiment... It show Italian, Irish and Black fighters fighting through monitary duress in order to feed their families and this all happened at different times showing us the state of affairs with a given demographic over time...

It's what made boxing the way that it is... The sport that it is.

This is not to say that things don't evolve.

Whether you think it's right or not there is a reason why fighters have physicals and MRIs and reflex tests. It's to keep the fighters safe, not to keep them down.

The way you're looking at the sport is as if the government says "to hell with the common man"... That's not it at all. It's saying to hell with ring deaths... To hell with Cerebral Hemotomas... To hell with seeing guys end up like Gerald McClellan...

The sport does not need anymore black eyes... It has enough.

That's why energy should be spent to form a boxing union... Not to promote regular joes who don't have enough money for medical bills getting in the ring and getting themselves or the other guy hurt.

Did I say it was right?
It isnt right that coal trains loaded to the gills drive right buy miners who live in run down trailers
But its the way it is
And lets face it the 900 bucks we made in Sacremento filled the oil tank and bought a ton of food for the year
And we're relatively high end for this business

Right, but your fighters are propperly prepared and trained, correct?

Ok,thats a point I'll grant you

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

Did I say it was right?
It isnt right that coal trains loaded to the gills drive right buy miners who live in run down trailers
But its the way it is
And lets face it the 900 bucks we made in Sacremento filled the oil tank and bought a ton of food for the year
And we're relatively high end for this business

Right, but your fighters are propperly prepared and trained, correct?

Ok,thats a point I'll grant you

I'm not arguing as much as trying to understand why SOB views things like medical irelevent. In his past post he said he'd never recieved an MRI nor wants one... I'm glad he's never needed one... I've recieved multiple.(One playing football others fighting)

Measures are in place to protect a fighter and the lack of said measures could cause irrepairable damage.

Sometimes people juust aren't ment to do certain things. Some people just don't have the means... That's not a bad thing sometimes.

You could say the same thing about motorcross... I got this bike but can't aford this helmet... Booo Hooo... I'm gonna find a state that'll let me race bare headed. Well, OK... Good luck to you!

[SOB]

i'm cool welcome SOB version 2

Thanks Mr.Saddo and as long as this post stays here. I will just
continue to stay here with Paris Hinton if that is ok with you, Some
people feel that I threaten there knowledge of the game sometimes
and if I am not in there path they are sure not to try and run me
over.Because my 1st reaction is to duck tape there head to a tree
and party with them Deliverance style and again I will say I
am here for peace so I will just stay off the main forum
were the wanna bee's are I am Playing I am Playing man,
I come in peace !


Dr.Goodnight

Stacy,

The off topic forum is for things other then Boxing. Should you create a thread about a fighter, up and coming fight, or reactions to such they go on the boxing forum...

Nobody said you shouldn't post there.

I like it here !

[SOB]

You could say the same thing about motorcross... I got this bike but can't aford this helmet... Booo Hooo... I'm gonna find a state that'll let me race bare headed. Well, OK... Good luck to you!

Do you realize the last 7 people that died IN pro
boxing in the United States had MRI'S with in 7 days
of there Fatal fight of America . Demanding
I pay for an MRI or not fight is a violation of my rights
and causing thousands of other American Club Fighters
to lose there Heritage . So some guy can say look how
I am helping boxing by preventing blue collar Americans
form Participating in the sport they love !

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

You could say the same thing about motorcross... I got this bike but can't aford this helmet... Booo Hooo... I'm gonna find a state that'll let me race bare headed. Well, OK... Good luck to you!

Do you realize the last 7 people that died IN pro
boxing in the United States had MRI'S with in 7 days
of there Fatal fight of America . Demanding
I pay for an MRI or not fight is a violation of my rights
and causing thousands of other American Club Fighters
to lose there Heritage . So some guy can say look how
I am helping boxing by preventing blue collar Americans
form Participating in the sport they love !

Yes, but where are the numbers showing the fighters the MRIs showed unfit to box. It happens all the time. Fighters are deemed unfit to fight showing signs of drastically slowed reflexes due to blows to the head.

"So some guy can say look how
I am helping boxing by preventing blue collar Americans
form Participating in the sport they love"

What "guy" do you keep refering to that hates the blue collar man so much?...

People that can not come by the means to pay for their medical bills should not be stepping into the ring in a sport that is engineered to cause damage. Furthermore they should not be stepping into a ring unless deamed fit to do so.

It's a simple as that.

You think you're doing these men a service?

You think boxing is going to someday turn around and thank you?



Many fighters have come up from nothing to make themselves something... You wanna know how? Skill, hard work, training... Money is not one of the ingredients... that comes later.

These "Fighters" you speak of... You talk like they were born with golden spoons in their mouths...

Tyson, Ali, Pac, MAB, Tony Margarito... I could go on for days. They fought, got backing... made a name for themselves and moved on...


You keep talking like "the man" is keeping you down...

You're not a Martyr and niether are your fighters.

[Trainer Monkey]

Right, but your fighters are propperly prepared and trained, correct?

Ok,thats a point I'll grant you

I'm not arguing as much as trying to understand why SOB views things like medical irelevent. In his past post he said he'd never recieved an MRI nor wants one... I'm glad he's never needed one... I've recieved multiple.(One playing football others fighting)

Measures are in place to protect a fighter and the lack of said measures could cause irrepairable damage.

Sometimes people juust aren't ment to do certain things. Some people just don't have the means... That's not a bad thing sometimes.

You could say the same thing about motorcross... I got this bike but can't aford this helmet... Booo Hooo... I'm gonna find a state that'll let me race bare headed. Well, OK... Good luck to you!

I have to admit,Im not used to this level of Boxing,apparently my fighters have been living the high life.Because Im used to 400 to a grand, a full physical, liscence and air fare, and thats for a debuting fighter

[SOB]

These "Fighters" you speak of... You talk like they were born with golden spoons in their mouths...

Tyson, Ali, Pac, MAB, Tony Margarito... I could go on for days. They fought, got backing... made a name for themselves and moved on...


You keep talking like "the man" is keeping you down...

You're not a Martyr and niether are your fighters.

Well those are great fighters and you forgot about Bernard
Hopkins , Hell he came from a life of crime & learned how to
box from Tax Payers Dollars , But See my list of fighters
like Bryant Pappas(NY Cop) & Oisin Fagan(School Teacher)
and yes my list goes on and on to they want the right to
fight with out it costing a months salary, And the bill of
rights says that if a government body gets destructive against
those rights in the right of the people to alter or abolish there
ass!And that sounds like a Job for Mr. 9 mm if you ask me !But
that's just the redneck talking right there!But saying Arkansas
is a weak commission because they still honor the constitution
is like say America became weak once they out lawed slavery !
So I am saying now load and clear , set my People Free ,Set
my people free We are Firemen , we are the construction workers ,
we are the Police Officers that protect you while you sleep .And we
want out freedom ! And that's all there is to it !

[Ghost]

But that doesn't mean it's right...

Nor does it mean that it is wrong.

Tell you what POB, come up with money for Andrew to live, pay his bills, raise his kids and put food on his table without him getting the ring and I personaly will put a stop to his fighting.

You know the funny thing is, most of the people Praise RJJ for his fighting skills in the ring, but you don't hear to much about the "pit fights" or the "cock fights" that he puts on. Can't look to closely at their "Star Fighter" when they do wrong, now can we.

As I have stated in another thread, I have seen worst fighters than Andrew in the ring, but they are not members of this forum, and such are not always close at hand to degrade in public. Did you know "Tent Fights" still happen in OZ?

Step off Soap Box for awhile

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

These "Fighters" you speak of... You talk like they were born with golden spoons in their mouths...

Tyson, Ali, Pac, MAB, Tony Margarito... I could go on for days. They fought, got backing... made a name for themselves and moved on...


You keep talking like "the man" is keeping you down...

You're not a Martyr and niether are your fighters.

Well those are great fighters and you forgot about Bernard
Hopkins , Hell he came from a life of crime & learned how to
box from Tax Payers Dollars , But See my list of fighters
like Bryant Pappas(NY Cop) & Oisin Fagan(School Teacher)
and yes my list goes on and on to they want the right to
fight with out it costing a months salary, And the bill of
rights says that if a government body gets destructive against
those rights in the right of the people to alter or abolish there
ass!And that sounds like a Job for Mr. 9 mm if you ask me !But
that's just the redneck talking right there!But saying Arkansas
is a weak commission because they still honor the constitution
is like say America became weak once they out lawed slavery !
So I am saying now load and clear , set my People Free ,Set
my people free We are Firemen , we are the construction workers ,
we are the Police Officers that protect you while you sleep .And we
want out freedom ! And that's all there is to it !

OK... It really doesn't matter what I say. I'll leave you with this...

Arkansas DOES have a weak commision and IMO someone should go in there and overhaul it... People box as a hobby all the time... Hell, I do. I had 70 amatuer fights but never went pro... Played College football instead on a scholarship(put myself through college cuz I'm one of those middle class guys)

If you wanna box, box as a hobby... Do it in a gym... do it with trainers... It doesn't cost a month's salary to box in a gym.

I'm not running on to fenway parks infield screaming, "why won't you guys let me play? It's in the Delaration of independence!"

You start out and play on farm teams first to see where you fair... Or a boxing gym... not jumping into a pro ring with ZERO amatuer fights and no backing... that's asking to get hurt.

So in closing I'll say this,

It's called PROFESSIONAL boxing because its professional. You don't walk into a machine shop, touch a machine and become a master toolmaker...

Plain and simple

[Ghost]

Almost forgot.....

Hello Stacy, long time no talk, Welcome to Saddo's

[SOB]

I have to admit,Im not used to this level of Boxing,apparently my fighters have been living the high life.Because Im used to 400 to a grand, a full physical, liscence and air fare, and thats for a debuting fighter

So you are saying if your fighter was getting four hundred dollars
he would want to pay $1500 or more for medicals ! My guys say hell no
give it to the people that need it like the Millions of Kids in the
USA that are obese and will have major health problems before
they are out of there 30's , We say give it to the 100's of thousands
of kids that have Autism because of the mercury poisoning the
the government give them when they were given there vaccinations !
These things are what should matter , no some bureaucrat cAcks
sucker getting sued if some one dies living the American Dream called
Freedom!Boxing is a right worth fighting for !

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

But that doesn't mean it's right...

Nor does it mean that it is wrong.

Tell you what POB, come up with money for Andrew to live, pay his bills, raise his kids and put food on his table without him getting the ring and I personaly will put a stop to his fighting.

You know the funny thing is, most of the people Praise RJJ for his fighting skills in the ring, but you don't hear to much about the "pit fights" or the "cock fights" that he puts on. Can't look to closely at their "Star Fighter" when they do wrong, now can we.

As I have stated in another thread, I have seen worst fighters than Andrew in the ring, but they are not members of this forum, and such are not always close at hand to degrade in public. Did you know "Tent Fights" still happen in OZ?

Step off Soap Box for awhile

So you agree that MRIs and physicals to make sure your fit to fight are useless.

Have you ever been in a ring before?

Ahhh, you'll say yes even if you haven't.
So cock fights and pit fights and tent fights still happen so screw the medical wellbeing of the fighters.

[SOB]

These "Fighters" you speak of... You talk like they were born with golden spoons in their mouths...

Tyson, Ali, Pac, MAB, Tony Margarito... I could go on for days. They fought, got backing... made a name for themselves and moved on...


You keep talking like "the man" is keeping you down...

You're not a Martyr and niether are your fighters.

Well those are great fighters and you forgot about Bernard
Hopkins , Hell he came from a life of crime & learned how to
box from Tax Payers Dollars , But See my list of fighters
like Bryant Pappas(NY Cop) & Oisin Fagan(School Teacher)
and yes my list goes on and on to they want the right to
fight with out it costing a months salary, And the bill of
rights says that if a government body gets destructive against
those rights in the right of the people to alter or abolish there
ass!And that sounds like a Job for Mr. 9 mm if you ask me !But
that's just the redneck talking right there!But saying Arkansas
is a weak commission because they still honor the constitution
is like say America became weak once they out lawed slavery !
So I am saying now load and clear , set my People Free ,Set
my people free We are Firemen , we are the construction workers ,
we are the Police Officers that protect you while you sleep .And we
want out freedom ! And that's all there is to it !

OK... It really doesn't matter what I say. I'll leave you with this...

Arkansas DOES have a weak commision and IMO someone should go in there and overhaul it... People box as a hobby all the time... Hell, I do. I had 70 amatuer fights but never went pro... Played College football instead on a scholarship(put myself through college cuz I'm one of those middle class guys)

If you wanna box, box as a hobby... Do it in a gym... do it with trainers... It doesn't cost a month's salary to box in a gym.

I'm not running on to fenway parks infield screaming, "why won't you guys let me play? It's in the Delaration of independence!"

You start out and play on farm teams first to see where you fair... Or a boxing gym... not jumping into a pro ring with ZERO amatuer fights and no backing... that's asking to get hurt.

So in closing I'll say this,

It's called PROFESSIONAL boxing because its professional. You don't walk into a machine shop, touch a machine and become a master toolmaker...

Plain and simple

Man think of all that have died for the rights you want trampled !
If a man is born a freeman he should die one unless he is a criminal.
Maybe we need to just abolish boxing for everybody , Out of your
70 Amateur fights how many MRI's did you get before you fought
each fight? And be honest now ! So you are telling me an 8 year old kid is not
as important as Andrew Hartley or me. And before you start saying
Amateur boxing is safe enough that you don't need MRI's. Know
that the only person to die in a boxing match in Arkansas was
an Amateur boxer ! At least in the last 100 years anyway! Give me freedom,
not an MRI ! That's what I say !

[Plopeater]

If people are stupid enough to pay and watch shit like Zelenoff, Thunder, Hillbilly gimp then good luck to them in making money. As long as they stay in the fucked up retarded place they're from fine.

No matter what anyone says that Hartley/Dumas fight is possibly the worst boxing I've ever seen, if I was that shit, which I probably am I wouldn't box, go on boxing forums gobbing off or let them anywhere near youtube