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    Default Re: The knockdown.

    White collar, by that do you mean a match between non-boxers?
    If he's only been training for 3 weeks and it was the first shot he actually felt it probably came just as a shock to him.
    Check his reaction this week, is he REALLY up for the fight or not, or maybe the slight over reaction may be a small cry to be pulled out rather than admit he doesn't feel up to it yet.

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    Default Re: The knockdown.

    Couldn't you just increase the pressure when you're sparring him?

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    Default Re: The knockdown.

    How old is this Friend Don
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    Default Re: The knockdown.

    What I think we're all saying,is there's alot of potential variables

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    Default Re: The knockdown.

    three weeks is way too soon to be sparring, i know in a lot of gyms you will be thrown in right away but a novice must first learn and be fairly ok with the basics, way to early for this guy to be talking about fighting, anyways if he went down and was spinning after a light tap he prob doesnt have what it takes to even be sparring. stick to non contact boxercise or something lol

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    Default Re: The knockdown.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bomp View Post
    White collar, by that do you mean a match between non-boxers?
    If he's only been training for 3 weeks and it was the first shot he actually felt it probably came just as a shock to him.
    Check his reaction this week, is he REALLY up for the fight or not, or maybe the slight over reaction may be a small cry to be pulled out rather than admit he doesn't feel up to it yet.
    He's been in and out of a boxing gym for over a year.
    I take no responsibilty when I'm not with him, but when he's with me I only ever spar light and ask the others the same.

    Thats precisely what I am going to do.

    Quote Originally Posted by boxer1234 View Post
    Couldn't you just increase the pressure when you're sparring him?
    I could but thats not what I really do.
    In order for our sparring to pay any dividends for myself I'm just throwing my jab perfectly and defending as best I can.

    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap View Post
    How old is this Friend Don
    He is 20 Scrap.
    He works shift work, either earlys or lates.

    Quote Originally Posted by walkersmith View Post
    three weeks is way too soon to be sparring, i know in a lot of gyms you will be thrown in right away but a novice must first learn and be fairly ok with the basics, way to early for this guy to be talking about fighting, anyways if he went down and was spinning after a light tap he prob doesnt have what it takes to even be sparring. stick to non contact boxercise or something lol
    He's been boxing a while, he is decent with the fundamentals.

    He has taken some shots in the past and there was no real reaction.
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    Default Re: The knockdown.

    Good job he got knocked down.

    He went to the doctor and got himself checked.
    Turns out he's got a problem with his kidneys.
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    Default Re: The knockdown.

    Quote Originally Posted by hitmandonny View Post
    Good job he got knocked down.

    He went to the doctor and got himself checked.
    Turns out he's got a problem with his kidneys.
    That is one I wouldnt have guessed,damn good thing he got dropped

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    Quote Originally Posted by hitmandonny View Post
    Good job he got knocked down.

    He went to the doctor and got himself checked.
    Turns out he's got a problem with his kidneys.
    Donny - Guess it shows your instincts were correct about something not being quite right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Missy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hitmandonny View Post
    Good job he got knocked down.

    He went to the doctor and got himself checked.
    Turns out he's got a problem with his kidneys.
    Donny - Guess it shows your instincts were correct about something not being quite right.
    Hey - I guess it does!

    He won't ever be able to box competitively, but fair play to him, he's still coming to the gym and blasting through the workouts
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    Quote Originally Posted by hitmandonny View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Missy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hitmandonny View Post
    Good job he got knocked down.

    He went to the doctor and got himself checked.
    Turns out he's got a problem with his kidneys.
    Donny - Guess it shows your instincts were correct about something not being quite right.
    Hey - I guess it does!

    He won't ever be able to box competitively, but fair play to him, he's still coming to the gym and blasting through the workouts
    My first instinct is to say hydrate the hell out of him,but I dont know if his kidneys can take it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hitmandonny View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Missy View Post

    Donny - Guess it shows your instincts were correct about something not being quite right.
    Hey - I guess it does!

    He won't ever be able to box competitively, but fair play to him, he's still coming to the gym and blasting through the workouts
    My first instinct is to say hydrate the hell out of him,but I dont know if his kidneys can take it
    Well like I said, he can't fight, but he's safe to train.

    He can "operate" safely without physical contact.
    But when he gets tired and gets hit he'll just switch off.
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    Default Re: The knockdown.

    Quote Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hitmandonny View Post
    Good job he got knocked down.

    He went to the doctor and got himself checked.
    Turns out he's got a problem with his kidneys.
    That is one I wouldnt have guessed,damn good thing he got dropped
    The Good Lord was definitely watching out for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clubber View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hitmandonny View Post
    Good job he got knocked down.

    He went to the doctor and got himself checked.
    Turns out he's got a problem with his kidneys.
    That is one I wouldnt have guessed,damn good thing he got dropped
    The Good Lord was definitely watching out for him.
    No freaking kidding,alot of commisions dont have thorough physicals, can you imagine that guy taking numerous shots to the kidneys?

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    Default Re: The knockdown.

    Quote Originally Posted by hitmandonny View Post
    I'm in an odd situation.

    A friend has been training with me for 3 weeks now.
    In that time I've helped him shed a half stone and he's feeling very fit and strong, so I am delighted.
    He's also agreed to have a White Collar fight on a card that I am helping to organise, so I've had him spar me and some others.
    When sparring me he has no problems, I'm not really a pressure fighter and I step back a lot so he had breathing space. He's not nervous when he's in there with me so that also helps.

    But last night in sparring we did spar a pressure fighter.
    Matt was doing fairly well apart from constantly ducking for his knees when flurries came his way (keep in mind this was light sparring)
    Toward the end of his second round he did the same, ducked low and took what I would deem a sharp tap to the temple.

    He was wearing a Top ten headgear and went down, leaning over the bottom rope, identically to Jersey Joe against Marciano.
    I thought fatigue had played its part, but he insisted he was dazed.

    I really don't know what to think of this.
    Should I allow him to fight?
    I've been working defense with him for a few weeks and he hasn't really been jarred before this.
    Why would he go down so heavily telling me "the ropes were spinning" from such a pulled shot?
    -----------------------------------

    Did i read this right, your friend has been training for 3 weeks and you are gonna allow him to fight. To answer your question there is no way you should allow him to fight after 3 weeks of training. I cant beleive you are even considering putting him in. From what you have expained about your friend he doesnt sound like he is ready to have a fight if he is taking a knee during light sparring, that shits embarrasing.

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