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    Great day of boxing my boy Diaz gets back on track with an excellent win and Khan gets knocked out one of the best boxing days of my life
    I'm hoping to be saying the same thing around this time on Nov. 21.
    What fight is that bro ? but if Marquez and Jones both win it will probably the best year of boxing ever for me
    The proposed Molitor - Caballero unification. Molitor has got some big physical disadvantages to overcome in this one.

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    I'm hoping to be saying the same thing around this time on Nov. 21.
    What fight is that bro ? but if Marquez and Jones both win it will probably the best year of boxing ever for me
    The proposed Molitor - Caballero unification.
    Ahh your fellow Canadian i like Steve Molitor alot i think he is very skilled patient fighter with good countering skills been following him ever since he beat Michael Hunter and i think he could beat Israel Vasquez aswell.

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    What fight is that bro ? but if Marquez and Jones both win it will probably the best year of boxing ever for me
    The proposed Molitor - Caballero unification.
    Ahh your fellow Canadian i like Steve Molitor alot i think he is very skilled patient fighter with good countering skills been following him even since he beat Michael Hunter and i think he could beat Israel Vasquez aswell.
    Yeah, I worry about this fight because Caballero has such a big physical advantage over Molitor. I also think there are a few questions surrounding Molitor's chin that need to be answered before I'd pick him over Vasquez, though those questions will likely be answered in his next fight. I'd like to see that fight if he gets by Caballero though.

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    Default Re: Michael Katsidis vs Juan Diaz ICB's RBR

    For the benefit of those who didn't see the fight, since there was a contraversey in the scoring, Harold Lederman gave Kats 2 of the 12 rounds and those were two close rounds. There was no noticable difference in the power of the two, Kats was just outclassed in the skill department.

    As for Kellerman, I don't think he grandstands. When he interviews fighters he tries to get to the heart of the matter. He's trying to get the fighters to say something interesting, and that's not always easy.

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    Default Re: Michael Katsidis vs Juan Diaz ICB's RBR

    Not saying that kats could every beat diaz, he might just not be skilled enough, but for the first 6 rounds he fought a completely wrong fight, and for the last 6 rounds he only fought the fight he should be fighting in select spots. His trainer must have smoked some good shit before the fight to have been behaving the way he was, I mean wtf was he watching, the boxing part was obviously not working for kats and one could argue that when it turned into somewhat of a brawl he was losing that as well, but at least he was catching diaz with some shots then, and i figured kats could take more punishment than diaz. I really like kats good fighter tremendous heart but I can't see how glenada or whatever his name is had it 115-113 closest score I could realistically would be 116-112 for diaz. Also I don't think kats needs to necessarily fight lesser skilled opponents he just needs a new trainer that knows what in the hell they're doing, or are at least even halfway competent at their job.

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    I thought HBO and Lederman were way off. They get worse every fight, it seems. 116-112 for Diaz seemed like a very good score to me. Diaz clearly won, but Kats took more than two rounds. In defense of the judges, I guess I can see 115-113 Diaz, but that's pushing it. Glen Hamada must have been stoned to score it 115-113 for Kats. 118-110 from Lederman was almost as stupid as 115-113 for Kats.

    The split decision is poetic justice for Diaz. Campbell was robbed of a UD in the last fight, in which he beat Diaz just as thoroughly as Diaz beat Kats in this one.

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    Default Re: Michael Katsidis vs Juan Diaz ICB's RBR

    Fuck yes, that was beautiful. Was just not sure how Diaz would respond.

    Casa's nowhere near what he once was, I'd be surprised if he beat Diaz. Guzman is a bad one for him and I don't really want to see it anyway as I'm huge fans of both.

    Funny how a bad weight class can quickly turn around, 135's looking pretty good IMO.

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    Default Re: Michael Katsidis vs Juan Diaz ICB's RBR

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    Really feel bad for Kats...
    He fought the wrong fight from the start. I hope he takes a long hard look and thinks it through if he want's to continue boxing.

    His trainer needs to have his fucken head checked telling Kats everythings "marvelous" and going well. Dumb ass!!!

    Kats right eye seems to swell up very fast and that can be damaging to his sight. I just feel that when you weigh things out it just not might be worth it.
    I don't think he needs to consider retirement. Like Kellerman said, choosing better opponents more suited to his skill level would be very beneficial, but he's only lost to elite fighters so far, though he has struggled against less than world-class opposition.

    He needs a new trainer though, and he trainer needs surgery to remove his head from his own ass.
    Well their lies the problem.
    Kats in the post fight interview when Max asked him about the oppostion and to turn it down a notch Kats said "Go big or go home"
    He said he wanted nothing but the best and that he wasn't looking for easy fights he wanted to make the best of it since a flight back to Oz is a long one.



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    Really feel bad for Kats...
    He fought the wrong fight from the start. I hope he takes a long hard look and thinks it through if he want's to continue boxing.

    His trainer needs to have his fucken head checked telling Kats everythings "marvelous" and going well. Dumb ass!!!

    Kats right eye seems to swell up very fast and that can be damaging to his sight. I just feel that when you weigh things out it just not might be worth it.
    As soon as the fight started Mick i was in shock at Katsidis boxing especially when its obvious Diaz is the superior boxer i thought he might be saving his energy for the later rounds so his power might become factor but when he tried to turn it on Diaz was far too good on the defense but Katsidis should of just jumped on Diaz right away and worked his body not a very good gameplan at all from Katsidis.
    He completely fought the wrong fight, but more then anything his corner should have told him he was loosing and his corner is shit.
    I hope Golden Boy get's him a new trainer.

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    Default Re: Michael Katsidis vs Juan Diaz ICB's RBR

    What about 140 for Kats? Probably more opportunities to get a belt there. He seems like a pretty good sized lightweight.

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