What's the most unlikely rivalry in the history of boxing?

[Mark TKO]

like SSN the one that sprang to mind was Barkley Hearns

Collins Eubank ??


Golota Bowe (yes I know Bowe 'won' both he got hammered !!!)

[BIG H]

Junior Jones over Barrera

[ICB]

Carlos Monzon vs Nino Benvenuti
Salvador Sanchez vs Danny Lopez

[Kev]

Junior Jones over Barrera

ah yeah great call with Junior Jones, Barrera twice beaten by a man who shouldn't have been fit to lace his gloves.

[Chino]

Junior Jones over Barrera

ah yeah great call with Junior Jones, Barrera twice beaten by a man who shouldn't have been fit to lace his gloves.

Barrera vs Jones II hhhhhmmmm didn't really think Jones one that one just like ODLH vs Mosley II. Oh well .

But yeah, Terri Norris vs Santana was unbelievable. The guy taking 2 dives, wow. I savored the 3rd fight how Terri Norris jumped and celebrated aggressively yelling at Santana.

[CutMeMick]

I guess you guys missed the part where Bilbo said:

"someone who was completely unheralded..."

So far IMO the only ones that I think appliy are Santana-Norris & Peden-Nate & Monzon-Nino and Lopez-Sanchez.
Talk about guys who had not seen world stage yet and they did it.

The rest IMO the fighters had already been on world stage.

No way does SSM-Forrest, Mayorga-Forrest, MAB-Jones, Golota-Bowe etc. etc. apply.

[Kev]

I guess you guys missed the part where Bilbo said:

"someone who was completely unheralded..."

So far IMO the only ones that I think appliy are Santana-Norris & Peden-Nate & Monzon-Nino and Lopez-Sanchez.
Talk about guys who had not seen world stage yet and they did it.

The rest IMO the fighters had already been on world stage.

No way does SSM-Forrest, Mayorga-Forrest, MAB-Jones, Golota-Bowe etc. etc. apply.

Good points Mick and well noticed.

I think Barrera Jones and Mayorga Forrest fit the criteria though as take away Jones wins over Barrera and Mayorgas wins over Forrest and neither of them would have very much at all. Same would have been true for Rahman had he beaten Lewis a second time.

It's an interesting topic though I think, trying to think of a big name elite fighter who got beat by an unheralded fighter not once, but twice.

I reckon Forrest and Barrera losing to Mayorga and Jones are the best examples but you are far more familiar than me with older fighters so I'm sure there are several more.

Had Randy Turpin won the rematch with Sugar Ray that would have been another decent example, and maybe Ingemarr Johansson came close over Floyd Patterson, certainly he's only famous for beating Patterson.

[CutMeMick]

I guess you guys missed the part where Bilbo said:

"someone who was completely unheralded..."

So far IMO the only ones that I think appliy are Santana-Norris & Peden-Nate & Monzon-Nino and Lopez-Sanchez.
Talk about guys who had not seen world stage yet and they did it.

The rest IMO the fighters had already been on world stage.

No way does SSM-Forrest, Mayorga-Forrest, MAB-Jones, Golota-Bowe etc. etc. apply.

Good points Mick and well noticed.

I think Barrera Jones and Mayorga Forrest fit the criteria though as take away Jones wins over Barrera and Mayorgas wins over Forrest and neither of them would have very much at all. Same would have been true for Rahman had he beaten Lewis a second time.

It's an interesting topic though I think, trying to think of a big name elite fighter who got beat by an unheralded fighter not once, but twice.

I reckon Forrest and Barrera losing to Mayorga and Jones are the best examples but you are far more familiar than me with older fighters so I'm sure there are several more.

Had Randy Turpin won the rematch with Sugar Ray that would have been another decent example, and maybe Ingemarr Johansson came close over Floyd Patterson, certainly he's only famous for beating Patterson.

You see to me Jones was not unknown/unheralded.
Neither was Forrest or Moyarga at the time each won.
But I see your points.

Turpin-SRR would have possibly been the biggest.

[ICB]

I guess you guys missed the part where Bilbo said:

"someone who was completely unheralded..."

So far IMO the only ones that I think appliy are Santana-Norris & Peden-Nate & Monzon-Nino and Lopez-Sanchez.
Talk about guys who had not seen world stage yet and they did it.

The rest IMO the fighters had already been on world stage.

No way does SSM-Forrest, Mayorga-Forrest, MAB-Jones, Golota-Bowe etc. etc. apply.

Good points Mick and well noticed.

I think Barrera Jones and Mayorga Forrest fit the criteria though as take away Jones wins over Barrera and Mayorgas wins over Forrest and neither of them would have very much at all. Same would have been true for Rahman had he beaten Lewis a second time.

It's an interesting topic though I think, trying to think of a big name elite fighter who got beat by an unheralded fighter not once, but twice.

I reckon Forrest and Barrera losing to Mayorga and Jones are the best examples but you are far more familiar than me with older fighters so I'm sure there are several more.

Had Randy Turpin won the rematch with Sugar Ray that would have been another decent example, and maybe Ingemarr Johansson came close over Floyd Patterson, certainly he's only famous for beating Patterson.

You see to me Jones was not unknown/unheralded.
Neither was Forrest or Moyarga at the time each won.
But I see your points.

Turpin-SRR would have possibly been the biggest.

Totally agree with Mick here thats why i chose my picks carefully Salvador Sanchez was virtually unknown and everyone thought Danny Lopez would hit Salvador Sanchez's big jaw easily and would KO him inside of 4 thats why people were saying "Little Red" vs "Little Unknown" Danny Lopez had made 8 title defenses and had been KOing almost everybody but Salvador Sanchez outboxed Danny Lopez comfortably in both fights although Danny Lopez was more fired up for the rematch he still got counter punched and struggled to land his big bombs and yet again just like the 1st fight couldn't put effective pressure on..........

Its the same with Carlos Monzon vs Nino Benvenuti Carlos Monzon just like Salvador Sanchez was virtually unknown and hadn't been on the world stage before where as Nino Benvenuti had been in there with some great fighters like Emile Griffith, Dick Tiger, and had been fighting at the world stage for years and Carlos Monzon stopped Nino Benvenuti with a devastating right hand in there 1st fight then just overwhelmed him early in there 2nd fight.

[Spicoli]

Vuyani Bungu w x2 Kennedy Mckinney ??

Bramble wx2 Mancini ??

[rjj tszyu]

I guess you guys missed the part where Bilbo said:

"someone who was completely unheralded..."

So far IMO the only ones that I think appliy are Santana-Norris & Peden-Nate & Monzon-Nino and Lopez-Sanchez.
Talk about guys who had not seen world stage yet and they did it.

The rest IMO the fighters had already been on world stage.

No way does SSM-Forrest, Mayorga-Forrest, MAB-Jones, Golota-Bowe etc. etc. apply.

Good points Mick and well noticed.

I think Barrera Jones and Mayorga Forrest fit the criteria though as take away Jones wins over Barrera and Mayorgas wins over Forrest and neither of them would have very much at all. Same would have been true for Rahman had he beaten Lewis a second time.

It's an interesting topic though I think, trying to think of a big name elite fighter who got beat by an unheralded fighter not once, but twice.

I reckon Forrest and Barrera losing to Mayorga and Jones are the best examples but you are far more familiar than me with older fighters so I'm sure there are several more.

Had Randy Turpin won the rematch with Sugar Ray that would have been another decent example, and maybe Ingemarr Johansson came close over Floyd Patterson, certainly he's only famous for beating Patterson.

Wasn't Johansson an olympic medallist though? I am not sure I may be wrong but something sticks in my head about him and the olympics and therefore he would be somewhat heralded just for some olympic glory!

I must say I am stuck for answers to this question I'll think of some though!

[Kev]

Yeah he may well have been a medalist, although as we've seen with Khan and Audley it doesn't mean a whole lot.

Certainly Johannson is only known to the general public in relation to his trilogy with Patterson, but I believe Floyd won overall so doesn't count.

I think it's Mayorga that's the best example so far. Forrest was a top 10 p4p, maybe even top 5 at the time and Mayorga smashed him in a huge upset. But to then get the win a second time, there arn't many underdogs that have done that.

I'm not familiar with Ivan Robinson though so he may well be a good example.

I also liked Maskaev Rahman as well, I mean both those defeats were brutal for Hasim, and both fights he was expected to win.

It's a really interesting question though I think, I mean I can think of loads of upsets like Baldomir Judah, Wlad Sanders, Tyson Douglas etc but none of them followed it up with a win a rematch.

There probably can't be many who have achieved this.........