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    Default Re: Haye to fight Kevin Johnson?

    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins View Post
    Johnsons and Hayes cocky attitude's combined will be worth the ticket price.Johnson does not seem to commit himself coming forward but can fight off the backfoot very well with fast hands and box abit,solid jab. I'm still thinking Haye should go in against an Oleg Maskaev type........"Name" with title lineage and it would seem right now,there for the plucking ??
    Only problem with that is that Oleg can crack, and for a guy who has been KO'd a few times, he's got a decent chin. All the fighters who have stopped him are pretty big punchers. Lyakhovich would be the Russian with a title lineage to use as a test.

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    Default Re: Haye to fight Kevin Johnson?

    Quote Originally Posted by RozzySean View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins View Post
    Johnsons and Hayes cocky attitude's combined will be worth the ticket price.Johnson does not seem to commit himself coming forward but can fight off the backfoot very well with fast hands and box abit,solid jab. I'm still thinking Haye should go in against an Oleg Maskaev type........"Name" with title lineage and it would seem right now,there for the plucking ??
    Only problem with that is that Oleg can crack, and for a guy who has been KO'd a few times, he's got a decent chin. All the fighters who have stopped him are pretty big punchers. Lyakhovich would be the Russian with a title lineage to use as a test.

    And a winnable fight for my man Lyakhovich. Go WHITE WOLF!
    "If there's a better chin in the world than Pryor's, it has to be on Mount Rushmore." -Pat Putnam.

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    Default Re: Haye to fight Kevin Johnson?

    Quote Originally Posted by RozzySean View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins View Post
    Johnsons and Hayes cocky attitude's combined will be worth the ticket price.Johnson does not seem to commit himself coming forward but can fight off the backfoot very well with fast hands and box abit,solid jab. I'm still thinking Haye should go in against an Oleg Maskaev type........"Name" with title lineage and it would seem right now,there for the plucking ??
    Only problem with that is that Oleg can crack, and for a guy who has been KO'd a few times, he's got a decent chin. All the fighters who have stopped him are pretty big punchers. Lyakhovich would be the Russian with a title lineage to use as a test.
    I think Hayes mobility and straight right hand speed would do a number on a battle worn Maskaev.......Haye will always have the possibility of getting tagged hard at Heavy Lol.To the main stream,And Im guessing Haye wants to be in the spot light,Maskaev is a higher risk but abit more well known.Has Serquei fought since the Valuev loss......poor guy looked like he was in his third tri-mester that night .If he comes in top notch,I could see him giving Haye a go as well ?

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    Default Re: Haye to fight Kevin Johnson?

    The Klitchskos are licking their chops and waiting on Haye. It's gonna be a sad wakeup call for Haye.

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    Default Re: Haye to fight Kevin Johnson?

    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by RozzySean View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins View Post
    Johnsons and Hayes cocky attitude's combined will be worth the ticket price.Johnson does not seem to commit himself coming forward but can fight off the backfoot very well with fast hands and box abit,solid jab. I'm still thinking Haye should go in against an Oleg Maskaev type........"Name" with title lineage and it would seem right now,there for the plucking ??
    Only problem with that is that Oleg can crack, and for a guy who has been KO'd a few times, he's got a decent chin. All the fighters who have stopped him are pretty big punchers. Lyakhovich would be the Russian with a title lineage to use as a test.
    I think Hayes mobility and straight right hand speed would do a number on a battle worn Maskaev.......Haye will always have the possibility of getting tagged hard at Heavy Lol.To the main stream,And Im guessing Haye wants to be in the spot light,Maskaev is a higher risk but abit more well known.Has Serquei fought since the Valuev loss......poor guy looked like he was in his third tri-mester that night .If he comes in top notch,I could see him giving Haye a go as well ?
    Yes I think he could lose even in good shape sadly, and I am one of his few supporters on here. He really needs motiviation. But if getting a HW belt isn't motivation........I really don't know what is.
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    Default Re: Haye to fight Kevin Johnson?

    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by RozzySean View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins View Post
    Johnsons and Hayes cocky attitude's combined will be worth the ticket price.Johnson does not seem to commit himself coming forward but can fight off the backfoot very well with fast hands and box abit,solid jab. I'm still thinking Haye should go in against an Oleg Maskaev type........"Name" with title lineage and it would seem right now,there for the plucking ??
    Only problem with that is that Oleg can crack, and for a guy who has been KO'd a few times, he's got a decent chin. All the fighters who have stopped him are pretty big punchers. Lyakhovich would be the Russian with a title lineage to use as a test.
    I think Hayes mobility and straight right hand speed would do a number on a battle worn Maskaev.......Haye will always have the possibility of getting tagged hard at Heavy Lol.To the main stream,And Im guessing Haye wants to be in the spot light,Maskaev is a higher risk but abit more well known.Has Serquei fought since the Valuev loss......poor guy looked like he was in his third tri-mester that night .If he comes in top notch,I could see him giving Haye a go as well ?
    I would favor Haye over Maskaev. All heavyweights hit relatively hard, but some guys have real pop, one punch, fight changing power...Wlad, Peter, Rahman, Maskaev, Brewster. Those are the guys who Haye wants to avoid at this point. Even a battle worn Maskaev could catch the Haye flush and have him seeing lights. A Johnson, a Sergei, a Dominic Guinn, or an Eddie Chambers aren't going to catch Haye with one lucky shot and put him out.

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    Default Re: Haye to fight Kevin Johnson?

    Kevin Johnson is a big guy to be such a sorry ass puncher.

    It's smart for Haye to start out slowly in the division...he doesn't want to end up being like Amir Kahn or Audley Harrison.

    I would still like for Haye to fight someone that's more tested and proven to be durable like Dominick Guinn

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    Default Re: Haye to fight Kevin Johnson?

    Make no mistake, Johnson may not be a big name but he IS a test for Haye. I'd say he represents a bigger test than Maskaev, Rahman and Guinn.

    He's unbeaten and has beaten the kind of guys a decent prospect should beat.

    Wins over Robert Hawkins, Robert Wiggins and Damian Wills show he's a decent prospect. These are the kind of guys that the Maskaev's, Guinns, Arreola's and Audley Harrisons built their records on and so to have beaten them all shows he's no mug.

    A draw with Timor Ibragimov in his 4th fight as well, this kid may not be able to punch but he can certainly box and will be a tough test for Haye.

    If I was in Hayes camp I'd much rather fight someone with the name profile of a Rahman or Maskaev who will likely be a lot easier to beat than this guy.

    If Haye takes this fight people shouldn't underestimate him.

    No 20-0-1 fighter should ever be written off as a nobody, especially not by a guy essentially making his debut in the heavyweight division against him.

    Tough fight for Haye and props to him if he takes this tricky fight.

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    Johnson has SOME names on his record but Rahman and Maskaev are guys who won at the TOP of the division and he hasn't done that yet and despite where they are in their respective careers that experience matters.


    If Johnson is able to take a punch then he's going to give Haye a lot of issues.

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    Default Re: Haye to fight Kevin Johnson?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    Johnson has SOME names on his record but Rahman and Maskaev are guys who won at the TOP of the division and he hasn't done that yet and despite where they are in their respective careers that experience matters.


    If Johnson is able to take a punch then he's going to give Haye a lot of issues.

    I agree completely that Maskaev and Rahman would be better fights for Haye and bigger names on his record.

    But seeing Maskaev labour to a win over Hawkins and Rahman barely get past Zuri Lawrence you'd have to say a young, unbeaten, live opponent like Johnson is a much stiffer task than either of them.

    Rahman certainly is trading on name only these days, he's fat and out of shape, Maskaev is fat and slow and Haye would be highly fancied to beat both of them imo.

    This Johnson fella could be tricky.

    If I was Haye, or part of his team I'd choose to fight Rahman or Maskaev over Johnson any day. This is a difficult fight for very little recognition.

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    Default Re: Haye to fight Kevin Johnson?

    Johnson is a tougher fight for Haye than what i thought he would of taken for his first fight at heavyweight.

    if he gets the fight then good on him.

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    Default Re: Haye to fight Kevin Johnson?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Make no mistake, Johnson may not be a big name but he IS a test for Haye. I'd say he represents a bigger test than Maskaev, Rahman and Guinn.

    He's unbeaten and has beaten the kind of guys a decent prospect should beat.

    Wins over Robert Hawkins, Robert Wiggins and Damian Wills show he's a decent prospect. These are the kind of guys that the Maskaev's, Guinns, Arreola's and Audley Harrisons built their records on and so to have beaten them all shows he's no mug.

    A draw with Timor Ibragimov in his 4th fight as well, this kid may not be able to punch but he can certainly box and will be a tough test for Haye.

    If I was in Hayes camp I'd much rather fight someone with the name profile of a Rahman or Maskaev who will likely be a lot easier to beat than this guy.

    If Haye takes this fight people shouldn't underestimate him.

    No 20-0-1 fighter should ever be written off as a nobody, especially not by a guy essentially making his debut in the heavyweight division against him.

    Tough fight for Haye and props to him if he takes this tricky fight.
    Exactly my take.. Anyone who thinks Haye should be taking on a tougher opponent for his HW debut, much less those who would criticize him for taking this fight, simply overrate David Haye grossly. It's just ludicrous to expect him to have no problems fighting a big HW with real power right away. I would almost call this a pick em personally, Johnson has a very good jab and is schooled. We don't know whether he can really take a good shot or keep his cool under fire, but then again Haye has pretty much proven he can't either. And maybe Johnson does hit hard enough to put him out. If not he'll certainly put up a good tactical account of himself, it's not like Haye is some master boxer by any means, Johnson probably has far better skills. I wouldn't be at all surprised if Haye lost this, and it would definetly be impressive if he does a number on Johnson. Good matchup.

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    Default Re: Haye to fight Kevin Johnson?

    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Make no mistake, Johnson may not be a big name but he IS a test for Haye. I'd say he represents a bigger test than Maskaev, Rahman and Guinn.

    He's unbeaten and has beaten the kind of guys a decent prospect should beat.

    Wins over Robert Hawkins, Robert Wiggins and Damian Wills show he's a decent prospect. These are the kind of guys that the Maskaev's, Guinns, Arreola's and Audley Harrisons built their records on and so to have beaten them all shows he's no mug.

    A draw with Timor Ibragimov in his 4th fight as well, this kid may not be able to punch but he can certainly box and will be a tough test for Haye.

    If I was in Hayes camp I'd much rather fight someone with the name profile of a Rahman or Maskaev who will likely be a lot easier to beat than this guy.

    If Haye takes this fight people shouldn't underestimate him.

    No 20-0-1 fighter should ever be written off as a nobody, especially not by a guy essentially making his debut in the heavyweight division against him.

    Tough fight for Haye and props to him if he takes this tricky fight.
    Exactly my take.. Anyone who thinks Haye should be taking on a tougher opponent for his HW debut, much less those who would criticize him for taking this fight, simply overrate David Haye grossly. It's just ludicrous to expect him to have no problems fighting a big HW with real power right away. I would almost call this a pick em personally, Johnson has a very good jab and is schooled. We don't know whether he can really take a good shot or keep his cool under fire, but then again Haye has pretty much proven he can't either. And maybe Johnson does hit hard enough to put him out. If not he'll certainly put up a good tactical account of himself, it's not like Haye is some master boxer by any means, Johnson probably has far better skills. I wouldn't be at all surprised if Haye lost this, and it would definetly be impressive if he does a number on Johnson. Good matchup.
    I think that Haye will school Johnson to be honest if they do fight. I would be extremely shocked if he got beat anyway

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