Is Naseem Hamed in the top 10 featherweights of all time?

[bigragu]

He'd struggle to break the top 60 all time. Don't rate hamed at all... he fought a few good guys but a lot of the 'names' he fought were past their best when he fought them.

It'd be like saying Manfredo beat a Prime Scott Pemperton...

top 60? are you kidding? a 16-1 record in title fights with 15 of those being consecutive?...it's uneducated posts like this that really p*ss me off.....bone up on those skills and come back with a real comment... for this worthless comment...

[bigragu]

Top 10, you must be joking. Top 20 or 30 perhaps, good shout starr.

what is with all the NAS bashing...hopping on the bandwagon or do you have anything to justify your comment? does 16-1 in world title fights get you in the top 10? oh wait according to you it doesn't qualify for a top 20.... for this undocumented pathetic comment.

[Feather Fisted]

Top 10, you must be joking. Top 20 or 30 perhaps, good shout starr.

what is with all the NAS bashing...hopping on the bandwagon or do you have anything top justify you comment? does 16-1 in world title fights get you in the top 10? oh wait according to you it doesn't qualify for a top 20.... for this undocumented comment.

Just out of intrest where would you put him in the top 10? And who would you put at #1?

[bigragu]

Top 10, you must be joking. Top 20 or 30 perhaps, good shout starr.

what is with all the NAS bashing...hopping on the bandwagon or do you have anything top justify you comment? does 16-1 in world title fights get you in the top 10? oh wait according to you it doesn't qualify for a top 20.... for this undocumented comment.

Just out of intrest where would you put him in the top 10? And who would you put at #1?

I would put him at 3-5 in the best ever..behind Saddler, Salvador Sanchez (had potential to be #1 but the car crash took him away way too soon), maybe behind Arguello because he was a beast at any weight other than that I don't see anybody higher than him.

[Feather Fisted]

I would put him at 3-5 in the best ever..behind Saddler, Salvador Sanchez (had potential to be #1 but the car crash took him away way too soon), maybe behind Arguello because he was a beast at any weight other than that I don't see anybody higher than him.

I think he gets judged by most on the basis he had the potential to be alot better than he was, rather than looking at what he actually did. Saying that I know very little about the featherweights of the past so I honestly wouldnt know hwere to place him.

[bigragu]

I would put him at 3-5 in the best ever..behind Saddler, Salvador Sanchez (had potential to be #1 but the car crash took him away way too soon), maybe behind Arguello because he was a beast at any weight other than that I don't see anybody higher than him.

I think he gets judged by most on the basis he had the potential to be alot better than he was, rather than looking at what he actually did. Saying that I know very little about the featherweights of the past so I honestly wouldnt know hwere to place him.

at least you're honest...I remember watching Sanchez and Arguello fight and nelson and Mcguigan...The late 70's and 80's were a great time for featherweight boxing and boxing in just about every weight class lhw and down....the 80's were great for fight fans....

[The_One77]

he couldn't live through hardship where his heart was needed most, basically when he lost against Barrera.....He wasn't shot by any means, but Barrera took his manhood............great fighters come back and pick themselves up while their down, Naz never did that.

[sanj16]

top 10, he wouldn't make the top 100, i never liked this flash,disrespecting prat, he made a carreer from beating has beens and never beens

you are joking right?!? Talk about letting emotions and personal feelings cloud facts. There is no way that you could not put Hamed in the top 100!!!

[AC-Cobra]

When looking back at fighters that are worth looking at, we usually attach titles to them such as "great" "top 10" "top 25" or whatever without truly thinking.

Nas was a GOOD fighter, but he was never great. Ok Hamed could be considered a champ for all those fights, but come one, the WBO?? So are we gonna say Ricky was a world champ when he beat Vince Phillips? Thats plain silly. The IBF has a bit more credibility, but the fact remains, when Hamed step up to the true big boys of the division, he came severely unstuck. Barrera truly outclassed him. A true champion or in fact anyone who deserves a place on a top anything list comes back from that sort of fight in some way shape or form. Hamed could of set himself up to take on other big guns, but no. Hamed decided to quit after being outclassed and therefore there will always be severe doubt over his career. If you look at the facts, it appears Hamed was just a short step below the best. Had he come back and learned from what he did wrong as all true greats do, things might of been different.

[Purist]

Most people speak from hate of Naz and didn't follow his career and only watched the Barerra fight. I don't know how Barerra can get an off night against Pacquiao but Hamed was destroyed by Barerra and is there for overrated double standards.

Looking at it, I would put Hamed somewhere in the top 10 or so not because of his accomplishments, but because of his consistancy, Hamed would crack my top 10 if he had stayed true to his craft. I think Hamed that beat Robinson would be the top 5 featherweight of all time, and if he had stayed true to it I'd have no problem saying it. But Hamed, read the newspapers, and he fell in love with that one punch power, and he went away from his craft and away from his style and just depended on awkwardness and one punch power, not the combinations or counter punching. On accomplishments Hamed would crack the top 5 on accomplishments and title defenses. But given his potential shown in the Robinson fight, he should have accomplished more in my opinion. His accomplishment and credentials could crack the top 5 in title defenses and etc.. given all that, he should have done more given what he had in terms of talent and potential to accomplish, which is why he'd be top 10 or so on mine.

[Preme]

top 10, he wouldn't make the top 100, i never liked this flash,disrespecting prat, he made a carreer from beating has beens and never beens

look at my post..you are way off....you might not agree with his style but his results speak volumes...He was a great featherweight....

Your post is irrelevant though.

The people you mentioned didn't defend their tittles against the people nas did. its like saying klitchkov goes on a great tittle defence run, the comparing him to Ali down to the fact of tittle defences lol

Take Calzaghe, most people from the states didn't rate him, called him everyname under the sun, if a Jeff lacy didn't come along, calzaghes title defences would of been said to be a collection of nobody's and hes reign thought to be a joke.

The Barrera who beat him, was imo not even close to being the great fighter he has become. Nas v Barrera then, nas was in his prim, sure he wasn't prolly working as hard to get into the fight right, but age wise he should of been in his prime. If he was stupid enough to half ass his training and the rest of the crap he done then, there is a valid point of putting him in the top 100 - hate nas but i wouldn't know where to put him as i don't know enough about the other fighters..

But lets face it, raw natural speed, power and talent still doesn't make you a top 10 fighter - and imo nas proved that to us all

only thing i am sure on, is a prime Barrera, prime morales and prime pacquio would of all either stopped or KO 'the prince' - some will disagree but that I'd bet my house on.

[Purist]

and to AC-Cobra

Hamed won every featherweight "alphabet" title I think and he never lost them in the ring until he fought Barerra.

[SimonH]

Naseem was good superb, but IMO he is not all-time top 10.

The Featherweights are an incredibly talented group of fighters; my all-time list goes:

10: Salvador Sanchez
9: Joey Archibald
8: Azumah Nelson
7: Johnny Kilbane
6: George Dixon
5: Henry Armstrong
4; Eusebio Pedroza
3: Abe Attell
2: Willie Pep
1: Sandy Saddler

Honorary mentions: Young Griffo, Terry McGovern, Jim Driscoll, Bat Battalino, Hogan ‘Kid’ Bassey, Davey Moore, Sugar Ramos, Vicente Saldivar, Eder Jofre, Antonio Esparragoza, Naseem Hamed and Marco Antonio Barrera

Mentions: Ben Jordan, Young Corbett II, Johnny Dundee, Kid Kaplan, Tony Canzoneri, Kid Chocolate, Baby Arizmendi, Chalky Wright, Howard Winstone, Alexis Arguello, Danny Lopez, Juan LaPorte, Jeff Fenech, Marcos Villasana, Tom Johnson, Kevin Kelley, Eloy Rojas, Manuel Medina, Wilfred Vazquez, Erik Morales, and Manny Pacquiao.

[AC-Cobra]

and to AC-Cobra

Hamed won every featherweight "alphabet" title I think and he never lost them in the ring until he fought Barerra.

Hey Starr, if thats true, sorry. I was just responding to bigragu putting stock in those two belts and got my facts twisted.

Being only 18 I only saw a few Nas fights live, the Kelly one first and fell in love with him then, like a lot of othr fans in England. While I dont hate Nas, I suppose you could describe me as bitter that the Barrera fight ended his career. What I wished had happened was that that fight brought him back to his senses and made him focus more on his undeniable skills where he could of come back and challenged the best.

I think our difference in opinions comes in a glass half full, glass half empty kind of way. Where you focus on where Nas excelled, I'm guilty of dwelling on where he failed and always thinking what he could of been. That being said I'm not sure I would ever place him top 10 of all time at FW. Top 25 maybe but not top 10

[Purist]

I focused on where Nas excelled and where he failed. Naz was a very great fighter in his hay day, when he would use combinations and counter punching defense and angles and a shotgun jab. And he had that one punch power but it was never part of the gameplan to look for one shot, him just having it is what made him so unique.

But then he fell in love with that power and went away from his craft and became a guy who depended on awkwardness and just waiting to land one shot no matter what happened. That is why Barerra was able to outbox him. But the Naz that fought Steve Robinson, that used all those skills he had utilized I would pick against Barerra.