Weak, I'm not sure why it is I decide to become big fans of guys that chronically underachieve outside the ring, now that James Toney's fading into retirement I've got Joan Guzman.
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Weak, I'm not sure why it is I decide to become big fans of guys that chronically underachieve outside the ring, now that James Toney's fading into retirement I've got Joan Guzman.
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This could be a real disadvantage for Campbell, stating the obvious, I know. Disappointing stuff though. He was closer to the Jr. Welter limit than the LW one. He didn't even come back for the 2nd weigh-in, so who knows how much of an advantage Guzman' will have weight wise.
Mora also had trouble making weight, I wonder how much that will benefit Forrest in their rematch.
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Can someone explain how it's even possible for a guy who was fighting at super bantamweight only around a year or so ago can fail to make lightweight?![]()
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Well Joan can be just looking for a win not minding the belts as if he did win he would be considered as a potential matchup for a bigger name...
I don't know just thinking out loud here...
Credit Nate though for taking the fight as he could have easily turned around and said I'm not fighting. But remember when Chico (RIP) gave JLC the weight advantage? Chico got sparked out.
We'll see what happens...
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He weighed 138.5 and didn't even bother to comeback to re-attempt...
Mora was 2 lbs. over but made weight in hours...
I've noticed in the presscon pics yesterday that Guzman already looked weigh drained and yet he still not able to make weight today !!!
I really hate boxers that are unprofessionals... Good that the 3 titles were not on the line anymore... Still I want Guzman to pay a lot of penalty money to Nate...
Props to Nate for agreeing for this fight to proceed... that just give me additional reasons to root for him... Hope Guzman is totally weigh drained...
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showtime is pretty lucky they didnt put this card on ppv, otherwise they would have lost alot of money
mind over speed and power
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yeah he did lose a title on the scales and he got dropped on that fight too. that was then he was trying to make 112 a decade ago.what we are talking about now is the unification of titles at 135. btw, can you make it more obvious of how much u hate pac. this is not even a thread about him.
"speed is the essence of war"
sun tzu-art of war
Yeah very disapointed with Guz cuz its not the 1st time but huge props to Campbell for going ahead with it .
We saw that afew extra pounds is a assive unfair advantage with Castillo - Chico 2. Guz isnt a banger and nate isnt chinny so I doubt we will see a similar outcome but it is an advanatge and an unfair one.
Im switching sides now. I was hoping Guz would dazzle and be the next Floyd but Nates an honest pro and doesnt deserve this
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All the skill in the world but comes over like an Undisciplined little fat f!!!........I hope Campbell puts a beating on him in the late rounds
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I like Guzman, he's not the most exciting fighter to watch but he has serious skills.
My betting is he outclasses Nate to win a close but ultimately unanimous decision.
I hope he wins, as it sets up a Paquiao, Diaz or Marquez clash down the line.
I really think Guzman is something special whilst Campbell we know exactly what he has.
Shame on you for defending this guy. If anything, this shows that Guzman doesn't have the right mentality to be something special. Remember, both the weight issues for both JLC and Chico were signs that they had lost either the drive or the ability to compete at an elite level. If Guzman is shunning the belts and trying use weight as an advantage to beat Campbell and set up better fights, than the guy has no integrity and doesn't deserve our support.
Also, look at the pic, they guy looks weight drained. Good luck being slick if you are drained.
Now I'm REALLY hoping Grandpa Nate puts a hurt on this guy. If he didn't even try to come back a second time, it means he either didn't train right to make the weight, or this was intentional. Screw Guzman.
Last edited by RozzySean; 09-13-2008 at 01:37 PM.
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