Guzman fails to make weight

[Kev]

I like Guzman, he's not the most exciting fighter to watch but he has serious skills.

My betting is he outclasses Nate to win a close but ultimately unanimous decision.

I hope he wins, as it sets up a Paquiao, Diaz or Marquez clash down the line.

I really think Guzman is something special whilst Campbell we know exactly what he has.

[RozzySean]

I like Guzman, he's not the most exciting fighter to watch but he has serious skills.

My betting is he outclasses Nate to win a close but ultimately unanimous decision.

I hope he wins, as it sets up a Paquiao, Diaz or Marquez clash down the line.

I really think Guzman is something special whilst Campbell we know exactly what he has.

Shame on you for defending this guy. If anything, this shows that Guzman doesn't have the right mentality to be something special. Remember, both the weight issues for both JLC and Chico were signs that they had lost either the drive or the ability to compete at an elite level. If Guzman is shunning the belts and trying use weight as an advantage to beat Campbell and set up better fights, than the guy has no integrity and doesn't deserve our support.

Also, look at the pic, they guy looks weight drained. Good luck being slick if you are drained.

Now I'm REALLY hoping Grandpa Nate puts a hurt on this guy. If he didn't even try to come back a second time, it means he either didn't train right to make the weight, or this was intentional. Screw Guzman.

[Kirkland Laing]

I like Guzman, he's not the most exciting fighter to watch but he has serious skills.

My betting is he outclasses Nate to win a close but ultimately unanimous decision.

I hope he wins, as it sets up a Paquiao, Diaz or Marquez clash down the line.

I really think Guzman is something special whilst Campbell we know exactly what he has.

Shame on you for defending this guy. If anything, this shows that Guzman doesn't have the right mentality to be something special. Remember, both the weight issues for both JLC and Chico were signs that they had lost either the drive or the ability to compete at an elite level. If Guzman is shunning the belts and trying use weight as an advantage to beat Campbell and set up better fights, than the guy has no integrity and doesn't deserve our support.

Also, look at the pic, they guy looks weight drained. Good luck being slick if you are drained.

Now I'm REALLY hoping Grandpa Nate puts a hurt on this guy. If he didn't even try to come back a second time, it means he either didn't train right to make the weight, or this was intentional. Screw Guzman.

Exactly right. Fuck Guzman I hope he gets his arse handed to him now. I'm going with Campbell/JMM tonight.

[Kev]

I like Guzman, he's not the most exciting fighter to watch but he has serious skills.

My betting is he outclasses Nate to win a close but ultimately unanimous decision.

I hope he wins, as it sets up a Paquiao, Diaz or Marquez clash down the line.

I really think Guzman is something special whilst Campbell we know exactly what he has.

Shame on you for defending this guy. If anything, this shows that Guzman doesn't have the right mentality to be something special. Remember, both the weight issues for both JLC and Chico were signs that they had lost either the drive or the ability to compete at an elite level. If Guzman is shunning the belts and trying use weight as an advantage to beat Campbell and set up better fights, than the guy has no integrity and doesn't deserve our support.

Also, look at the pic, they guy looks weight drained. Good luck being slick if you are drained.

Now I'm REALLY hoping Grandpa Nate puts a hurt on this guy. If he didn't even try to come back a second time, it means he either didn't train right to make the weight, or this was intentional. Screw Guzman.

Your comment doesnt really make sense. On the one hand you say he looks completely weight drained and so won't be able to box his normal fight, yet on the other you say he's got an advantage and so you hope he gets knocked out?

It happens, fighters not making weight. I don't think Chico, Castillo or Guzman are fighters who lack professionalism, they have always given everything in their fights. I think Castillo and Chico got to the point where they just couldn't make the weight any more and maybe that's what has happened with Guzman.

I don't know, but I wanted him to win before the weigh in to set up some interesting fights and I still want him to win now.

[RozzySean]

I like Guzman, he's not the most exciting fighter to watch but he has serious skills.

My betting is he outclasses Nate to win a close but ultimately unanimous decision.

I hope he wins, as it sets up a Paquiao, Diaz or Marquez clash down the line.

I really think Guzman is something special whilst Campbell we know exactly what he has.

Shame on you for defending this guy. If anything, this shows that Guzman doesn't have the right mentality to be something special. Remember, both the weight issues for both JLC and Chico were signs that they had lost either the drive or the ability to compete at an elite level. If Guzman is shunning the belts and trying use weight as an advantage to beat Campbell and set up better fights, than the guy has no integrity and doesn't deserve our support.

Also, look at the pic, they guy looks weight drained. Good luck being slick if you are drained.

Now I'm REALLY hoping Grandpa Nate puts a hurt on this guy. If he didn't even try to come back a second time, it means he either didn't train right to make the weight, or this was intentional. Screw Guzman.

Your comment doesnt really make sense. On the one hand you say he looks completely weight drained and so won't be able to box his normal fight, yet on the other you say he's got an advantage and so you hope he gets knocked out?

It happens, fighters not making weight. I don't think Chico, Castillo or Guzman are fighters who lack professionalism, they have always given everything in their fights. I think Castillo and Chico got to the point where they just couldn't make the weight any more and maybe that's what has happened with Guzman.

I don't know, but I wanted him to win before the weigh in to set up some interesting fights and I still want him to win now.

No you missed my point. Either way, he doesn't deserve our support. He's either a slacker or a scumbag. I added the part about him looking weight drained because you said that you didn't think he would come in underprepared.

I can rephrase quickly, there is no excuse for either reason. Now the fight is cancelled. The weight theory has proved true, and now we know he doesn't have the right mentality to be something special. Now how the heck are all Nate's kids and grandkids gonna eat? I'll say it one more time. Screw Guzman and shame on anybody who defends or supports him. If think he just outgrew the weight you are kidding yourself. He's moving up from 130. Diane said it in another thread. He let himself blow up to 170 between fights. That's unprofessional, at least if you can't take it off by fight time. That's not growth. That's tostones, ropa vieja, and cerveza.