andrew kid thunder vs paul hillbilly pimp gardner oct 18th

[Trainer Monkey]

so now thunder thinks he's tyson because TM has worked with him for what, a month? thunder couldn't beat up a red headed step child.

I seriously doubt the arkansas state athletic commission even knows who hartley is. These "pro" bouts are a total fraud, done under the table so to speak.

and yes hartley, I'd be glad to step into the ring with you.

Actually I took him on,right before the Dumas fight,unfortunatly,I didnt have nearly enough time to do anything but put together a bare bones gameplan. Just setting the record straight there

[Von Milash]

TM, I've read your posts since the day I joined this site. No doubt whatsoever you know your stuff. But I think God himself would have a tough time turning hartley into anything decent.

[Trainer Monkey]

TM, I've read your posts since the day I joined this site. No doubt whatsoever you know your stuff. But I think God himself would have a tough time turning hartley into anything decent.

Trust me,I have no illusions about Andrew I dont think I have the future WBC title holder on my hands,but I did see things I could work with,considering he wasnt taught to throw any of his punches correctly he still showed decent hand speed,he has heart to beat the band,there was no reason for him to get up the third time against Dumas in the second considering the 3 knockdown rule,if it had been me,Id have just laid there and reflected on things.He had never really been taught proper defense either.He's only 25,so he has time for improvement.And I respect why he's fighting.
It will be interesting to see how he does

[jmbtandy]

TM I thought the plan was to have 3-4 months out of the ring to learn how to box, surely jumping in again so quick is only going to result in a similar result to what has happened before, I promised to lay off and I am, it is just a question out of interest