Joel gets stopped - major surprise

[ICB]

So why did WBO ranked Guzman no. 1 at lightweight when Guzman hasn't fought at lightweight yet ??

WBO Official Lightweight rankings as of Sept.

Champ NATE CAMPBELL USA Interim
1 Joan Guzman DR
2 Juan Diaz USA
3 Anthony Peterson USA
4 Jorge Terron (NABO) USA
5 Breidis Prescott (Int-Cont) COL
6 Michael Katsidis AUST
7 Martin Kristjansen DEN
8 Ali Funeka SA
9 Bobby Pacquiao (Asia-Pacific) PHI
10 Vicente Escobedo USA

Because he was fighting Nate Campbell who is the best Lightweight at the moment so it automatically makes him the number one centender does it not ?

Not that reason or else what do you think Juan Diaz (or Anthony Peterson) say about that?

I don't understand what your trying to say Joan Guzman was challenging for Nate Campbell's belt's which automatically makes him the number 1 contender now the fight has been cancelled he should be erased off the Lightweight rankings its totally different to Edwin Valero.

[XaduBoxer]

Because he was fighting Nate Campbell who is the best Lightweight at the moment so it automatically makes him the number one centender does it not ?

Not that reason or else what do you think Juan Diaz (or Anthony Peterson) say about that?

I don't understand what your trying to say Joan Guzman was challenging for Nate Campbell's belt's which automatically makes him the number 1 contender now the fight has been cancelled he should be erased off the Lightweight rankings its totally different to Edwin Valero.

I think Guzman got the no. 1 rankings at 135 because he is the WBO 130 division champ...

Valero is ranked by Figthnews at no. 5 at 135 because he is the WBA 130 champ...

See this ranking bodies does consider your rankings in your previous division...
.

[killersheep]

Not that reason or else what do you think Juan Diaz (or Anthony Peterson) say about that?

I don't understand what your trying to say Joan Guzman was challenging for Nate Campbell's belt's which automatically makes him the number 1 contender now the fight has been cancelled he should be erased off the Lightweight rankings its totally different to Edwin Valero.

I think Guzman got the no. 1 rankings at 135 because he is the WBO 130 division champ...

Valero is ranked by Figthnews at no. 5 at 135 because he is the WBA 130 champ...

See this ranking bodies does consider your rankings in your previous division...
.

Which makes no sense.

[XaduBoxer]

I don't understand what your trying to say Joan Guzman was challenging for Nate Campbell's belt's which automatically makes him the number 1 contender now the fight has been cancelled he should be erased off the Lightweight rankings its totally different to Edwin Valero.

I think Guzman got the no. 1 rankings at 135 because he is the WBO 130 division champ...

Valero is ranked by Figthnews at no. 5 at 135 because he is the WBA 130 champ...

See this ranking bodies does consider your rankings in your previous division...
.

Which makes no sense.

So "we" better replace the people in the rankings committee of Fightnews and WBO ??

"We" make more sense I guess ...
.

[ICB]

I think Guzman got the no. 1 rankings at 135 because he is the WBO 130 division champ...

Valero is ranked by Figthnews at no. 5 at 135 because he is the WBA 130 champ...

See this ranking bodies does consider your rankings in your previous division...
.

Which makes no sense.

So "we" better replace the people in the rankings committee of Fightnews and WBO ??

"We" make more sense I guess ...
.

Its stupid logic and you know it my post above pretty much says it all and how bad the logic fails i never said Joan Guzman at number 1 was stupid logic i said that makes sense but having Edwin Valero there makes no sense.

[ICB]

Not that reason or else what do you think Juan Diaz (or Anthony Peterson) say about that?

I don't understand what your trying to say Joan Guzman was challenging for Nate Campbell's belt's which automatically makes him the number 1 contender now the fight has been cancelled he should be erased off the Lightweight rankings its totally different to Edwin Valero.

I think Guzman got the no. 1 rankings at 135 because he is the WBO 130 division champ...

Valero is ranked by Figthnews at no. 5 at 135 because he is the WBA 130 champ...

See this ranking bodies does consider your rankings in your previous division...
.

As i said Joan Guzman was number 1 because he was challenging for Nate Campbell's belt's which makes him the number 1 contender automatically which makes sense having Edwin Valero on any Lightweight rankings makes no sense because not only does he not have any fights scheduled at Lightweight even worse he has had no fights at Lightweight if we are using your logic then Vernon Forrest should be ranked at Middleweight ? or Chad Dawson should be ranked at Cruiserweight ? do you see where this logic fails ?

[XaduBoxer]

I don't understand what your trying to say Joan Guzman was challenging for Nate Campbell's belt's which automatically makes him the number 1 contender now the fight has been cancelled he should be erased off the Lightweight rankings its totally different to Edwin Valero.

I think Guzman got the no. 1 rankings at 135 because he is the WBO 130 division champ...

Valero is ranked by Figthnews at no. 5 at 135 because he is the WBA 130 champ...

See this ranking bodies does consider your rankings in your previous division...
.

As i said Joan Guzman was number 1 because he was challenging for Nate Campbell's belt's which makes him the number 1 contender automatically which makes sense having Edwin Valero on any Lightweight rankings makes no sense because not only does he not have any fights scheduled at Lightweight even worse he has had no fights at Lightweight if we are using your logic then Vernon Forrest should be ranked at Middleweight ? or Chad Dawson should be ranked at Cruiserweight ? do you see where this logic fails ?

No. 2 to No. 15 can also challenge the champion... It's the other way around, Guzman was ranked at no. 1 (coz he's a 130 champ) and got the no. 1 mandatory challenger status NOT that he challenged the champ so he got the no. 1 contender ranking... automatically ??
.

[killersheep]

I think Guzman got the no. 1 rankings at 135 because he is the WBO 130 division champ...

Valero is ranked by Figthnews at no. 5 at 135 because he is the WBA 130 champ...

See this ranking bodies does consider your rankings in your previous division...
.

As i said Joan Guzman was number 1 because he was challenging for Nate Campbell's belt's which makes him the number 1 contender automatically which makes sense having Edwin Valero on any Lightweight rankings makes no sense because not only does he not have any fights scheduled at Lightweight even worse he has had no fights at Lightweight if we are using your logic then Vernon Forrest should be ranked at Middleweight ? or Chad Dawson should be ranked at Cruiserweight ? do you see where this logic fails ?

No. 2 to No. 15 can also challenge the champion... It's the other way around, Guzman was ranked at no. 1 (coz he's a 130 champ) and got the mandatory challenger status NOT that because he challenged the champ so he got the no. 1 contender ranking... automatically ??
.

Summary:

You like PAC the most at 135, that's what you're saying right?
Because you don't see the flaws in your own argument.

[XaduBoxer]

As i said Joan Guzman was number 1 because he was challenging for Nate Campbell's belt's which makes him the number 1 contender automatically which makes sense having Edwin Valero on any Lightweight rankings makes no sense because not only does he not have any fights scheduled at Lightweight even worse he has had no fights at Lightweight if we are using your logic then Vernon Forrest should be ranked at Middleweight ? or Chad Dawson should be ranked at Cruiserweight ? do you see where this logic fails ?

No. 2 to No. 15 can also challenge the champion... It's the other way around, Guzman was ranked at no. 1 (coz he's a 130 champ) and got the mandatory challenger status NOT that because he challenged the champ so he got the no. 1 contender ranking... automatically ??
.

Summary:

You like PAC the most at 135, that's what you're saying right?
Because you don't see the flaws in your own argument.

Nope... I'm trying to justify Fightnews no. 1 ranking of PAC...

[ICB]

I think Guzman got the no. 1 rankings at 135 because he is the WBO 130 division champ...

Valero is ranked by Figthnews at no. 5 at 135 because he is the WBA 130 champ...

See this ranking bodies does consider your rankings in your previous division...
.

As i said Joan Guzman was number 1 because he was challenging for Nate Campbell's belt's which makes him the number 1 contender automatically which makes sense having Edwin Valero on any Lightweight rankings makes no sense because not only does he not have any fights scheduled at Lightweight even worse he has had no fights at Lightweight if we are using your logic then Vernon Forrest should be ranked at Middleweight ? or Chad Dawson should be ranked at Cruiserweight ? do you see where this logic fails ?

No. 2 to No. 15 can also challenge the champion... It's the other way around, Guzman was ranked at no. 1 (coz he's a 130 champ) and got the mandatory challenger status NOT that because he challenged the champ so he got the no. 1 contender ranking... automatically ??
.

Of course it is he is challenging the champion so he becomes number 1 challenger i know full well about number 2 to number 15 ranking challengers can challenge the champion but thats different in this case but what does Joan Guzman's accomplishments at 130 have to do with his ranking ? absolute nothing and that fact you have to keep using sites to prove your argument without actually voicing your opinion speaks volumes because i don't think you even understand the logic either.