One Of The Strangest Comments I've Seen.

[Trainer Monkey]

Yeah Stacey sent me a PM the other day saying: "Why did you call me a clown, what have I ever done to you?"


I'm like yeah ok. I called him much worse names like Bottom Feeder, Hack, etc when he and I got into it in the calling out thread he made. I guess "clown" just rubs him the wrong way

Ive had screaming boughts with matchmakers at 2 AM over pay that were more cogent then some of the things Stacy says. Ive never dealt with a promoter that was that off his nut. I cant wait until October 17th and the Gerard fight so I can start booking Andrew, myself, out of town. Every time I talk to Andrew,Stacy has made some new fucked up decree. I should have known something stunk when I called one of my Illinois matchmakers about Andrew,and got a big sigh followed by,"Yeah(second sigh)I know Stacy.".
Ive only got to get through October 17th,and then I can go back to dealing with professionals

Who the hell is Gerard ?

His fight on the 17th Paul Hillbilly Pimp Gardner
If I misspelled his last name,it shows how serious Im taking him

[leftylee]

Ive had screaming boughts with matchmakers at 2 AM over pay that were more cogent then some of the things Stacy says. Ive never dealt with a promoter that was that off his nut. I cant wait until October 17th and the Gerard fight so I can start booking Andrew, myself, out of town. Every time I talk to Andrew,Stacy has made some new fucked up decree. I should have known something stunk when I called one of my Illinois matchmakers about Andrew,and got a big sigh followed by,"Yeah(second sigh)I know Stacy.".
Ive only got to get through October 17th,and then I can go back to dealing with professionals

Who the hell is Gerard ?

His fight on the 17th Paul Hillbilly Pim Gerard
If I misspelled his last name,it shows how serious Im taking him

You think Thunder will win that ?

BTW when Thunder has the money could you encourage him to fight Violent Demise in LA. I would pay PPV price to watch that fight.

[Trainer Monkey]

Who the hell is Gerard ?

His fight on the 17th Paul Hillbilly Pim Gerard
If I misspelled his last name,it shows how serious Im taking him

You think Thunder will win that ?

BTW when Thunder has the money could you encourage him to fight Violent Demise in LA. I would pay PPV for that fight.

A)I think he wins it easily
B)The $200 he's getting for this wont buy a ticket to LA
C)What,you think Im stupid,I dont know anything about VD

[leftylee]

His fight on the 17th Paul Hillbilly Pim Gerard
If I misspelled his last name,it shows how serious Im taking him

You think Thunder will win that ?

BTW when Thunder has the money could you encourage him to fight Violent Demise in LA. I would pay PPV for that fight.

A)I think he wins it easily
B)The $200 he's getting for this wont buy a ticket to LA
C)What,you think Im stupid,I dont know anything about VD

Well let him face a few more fighters and then he can afford LA.

And you don't need to know anything about VD. He ain't boxed as a pro. So surely Thunder will kick his ass.

[Trainer Monkey]

You think Thunder will win that ?

BTW when Thunder has the money could you encourage him to fight Violent Demise in LA. I would pay PPV for that fight.

A)I think he wins it easily
B)The $200 he's getting for this wont buy a ticket to LA
C)What,you think Im stupid,I dont know anything about VD

Well let him face a few more fighters and then he can afford LA.

And you don't need to know anything about VD. He ain't boxed as a pro. So surely Thunder will kick his ass.

Never,ever make that assumption,Christs sake,Andrew has balls of brass,but he's welterweight
Next thing I find out is VD is a heavy with a full amateur card,and get my boy killed

[skel1983]

I want to see this fight in La why dont all the posters donate Kid thunders air fare and expenses couple of quid each?

We could watch this big event live on saddoboxing!!!

VD wins this in a controversial SD, i might even by some ringside tickets.

[boozeboxer]

This is intriguing......anyway for Legion to set up a type of fundraiser with both fighters in a snake tank?

[RozzySean]

A)I think he wins it easily
B)The $200 he's getting for this wont buy a ticket to LA
C)What,you think Im stupid,I dont know anything about VD

Well let him face a few more fighters and then he can afford LA.

And you don't need to know anything about VD. He ain't boxed as a pro. So surely Thunder will kick his ass.

Never,ever make that assumption,Christs sake,Andrew has balls of brass,but he's welterweight
Next thing I find out is VD is a heavy with a full amateur card,and get my boy killed

Exactly. When we are talking about club fighters, they sometimes start out with less real training than a lot of Golden Gloves amateurs. Some guys get put on card as opponents with a couple months of shabby training. I got started too old have an amateur career, and I'm not particularly interested in getting beaten on regularly as a second job, but guys like me, or guys with even less training, get pulled into fights. In some ways, it's easier to find a pro fight than an amateur. Amateur trainers are more protective than pro promoters.

I saw a guy on a locally televised card who didn't have a clue. He was a fat 5'9" HW who was so clueless my trainer probably wouldn't even let him spar yet. Thirty seconds into the fight, I could see how if would end - rightcross over the top of sloppiest jab I've ever seen. And that's what happened in the first round.

There's a guy at my gym who was a 6-1 amateur. I've seen him fight. I've seen Andrew fight. It wouldn't be close. He would also beat Dumas like a rented mule. I don't think Violent D is one of those guys, but you never know.

TM, can you at least talk Andrew out of throwing lead overhand rights? That would be a good start!

[boozeboxer]

VD is Casamayor.

[Trainer Monkey]

Well let him face a few more fighters and then he can afford LA.

And you don't need to know anything about VD. He ain't boxed as a pro. So surely Thunder will kick his ass.

Never,ever make that assumption,Christs sake,Andrew has balls of brass,but he's welterweight
Next thing I find out is VD is a heavy with a full amateur card,and get my boy killed

Exactly. When we are talking about club fighters, they sometimes start out with less real training than a lot of Golden Gloves amateurs. Some guys get put on card as opponents with a couple months of shabby training. I got started too old have an amateur career, and I'm not particularly interested in getting beaten on regularly as a second job, but guys like me, or guys with even less training, get pulled into fights. In some ways, it's easier to find a pro fight than an amateur. Amateur trainers are more protective than pro promoters.

I saw a guy on a locally televised card who didn't have a clue. He was a fat 5'9" HW who was so clueless my trainer probably wouldn't even let him spar yet. Thirty seconds into the fight, I could see how if would end - rightcross over the top of sloppiest jab I've ever seen. And that's what happened in the first round.

There's a guy at my gym who was a 6-1 amateur. I've seen him fight. I've seen Andrew fight. It wouldn't be close. He would also beat Dumas like a rented mule. I don't think Violent D is one of those guys, but you never know.

TM, can you at least talk Andrew out of throwing lead overhand rights? That would be a good start!

Oddly enough the two punches we've had the lengthiest conversations about is the overhand cross,and the uppercut. For a power punching welter he's on the short side,so he needs to press.To press he needs better defense and a straight up the pike uppercut,and an overhand cross.He cant just sit back waiting for a big looping hook.He's got to ride his opponents jab in on a block get in and press the guy,or jab and come in.The constant waiting on a big hook has got to end,and Ive been beating that in to his head.