One Of The Strangest Comments I've Seen.

[Trainer Monkey]

You think Thunder will win that ?

BTW when Thunder has the money could you encourage him to fight Violent Demise in LA. I would pay PPV for that fight.

A)I think he wins it easily
B)The $200 he's getting for this wont buy a ticket to LA
C)What,you think Im stupid,I dont know anything about VD

Well let him face a few more fighters and then he can afford LA.

And you don't need to know anything about VD. He ain't boxed as a pro. So surely Thunder will kick his ass.

Never,ever make that assumption,Christs sake,Andrew has balls of brass,but he's welterweight
Next thing I find out is VD is a heavy with a full amateur card,and get my boy killed

[skel1983]

I want to see this fight in La why dont all the posters donate Kid thunders air fare and expenses couple of quid each?

We could watch this big event live on saddoboxing!!!

VD wins this in a controversial SD, i might even by some ringside tickets.

[boozeboxer]

This is intriguing......anyway for Legion to set up a type of fundraiser with both fighters in a snake tank?

[CFH]

This is intriguing......anyway for Legion to set up a type of fundraiser with both fighters in a snake tank?

I would pay a significant amount of money to watch that.

[Gandalf]

Aarrrghhjh snakes@

[Gandalf]

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[Gandalf]

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WTF?

Im sorry for anybody who had to try and read that. I really have no idea what I was trying to say.

[RozzySean]

A)I think he wins it easily
B)The $200 he's getting for this wont buy a ticket to LA
C)What,you think Im stupid,I dont know anything about VD

Well let him face a few more fighters and then he can afford LA.

And you don't need to know anything about VD. He ain't boxed as a pro. So surely Thunder will kick his ass.

Never,ever make that assumption,Christs sake,Andrew has balls of brass,but he's welterweight
Next thing I find out is VD is a heavy with a full amateur card,and get my boy killed

Exactly. When we are talking about club fighters, they sometimes start out with less real training than a lot of Golden Gloves amateurs. Some guys get put on card as opponents with a couple months of shabby training. I got started too old have an amateur career, and I'm not particularly interested in getting beaten on regularly as a second job, but guys like me, or guys with even less training, get pulled into fights. In some ways, it's easier to find a pro fight than an amateur. Amateur trainers are more protective than pro promoters.

I saw a guy on a locally televised card who didn't have a clue. He was a fat 5'9" HW who was so clueless my trainer probably wouldn't even let him spar yet. Thirty seconds into the fight, I could see how if would end - rightcross over the top of sloppiest jab I've ever seen. And that's what happened in the first round.

There's a guy at my gym who was a 6-1 amateur. I've seen him fight. I've seen Andrew fight. It wouldn't be close. He would also beat Dumas like a rented mule. I don't think Violent D is one of those guys, but you never know.

TM, can you at least talk Andrew out of throwing lead overhand rights? That would be a good start!

[boozeboxer]

VD is Casamayor.

[Kirkland Laing]

VD is Casamayor.

Nah, Casamayor has better English than VD.


Sorry VD, just kidding.

[Trainer Monkey]

Well let him face a few more fighters and then he can afford LA.

And you don't need to know anything about VD. He ain't boxed as a pro. So surely Thunder will kick his ass.

Never,ever make that assumption,Christs sake,Andrew has balls of brass,but he's welterweight
Next thing I find out is VD is a heavy with a full amateur card,and get my boy killed

Exactly. When we are talking about club fighters, they sometimes start out with less real training than a lot of Golden Gloves amateurs. Some guys get put on card as opponents with a couple months of shabby training. I got started too old have an amateur career, and I'm not particularly interested in getting beaten on regularly as a second job, but guys like me, or guys with even less training, get pulled into fights. In some ways, it's easier to find a pro fight than an amateur. Amateur trainers are more protective than pro promoters.

I saw a guy on a locally televised card who didn't have a clue. He was a fat 5'9" HW who was so clueless my trainer probably wouldn't even let him spar yet. Thirty seconds into the fight, I could see how if would end - rightcross over the top of sloppiest jab I've ever seen. And that's what happened in the first round.

There's a guy at my gym who was a 6-1 amateur. I've seen him fight. I've seen Andrew fight. It wouldn't be close. He would also beat Dumas like a rented mule. I don't think Violent D is one of those guys, but you never know.

TM, can you at least talk Andrew out of throwing lead overhand rights? That would be a good start!

Oddly enough the two punches we've had the lengthiest conversations about is the overhand cross,and the uppercut. For a power punching welter he's on the short side,so he needs to press.To press he needs better defense and a straight up the pike uppercut,and an overhand cross.He cant just sit back waiting for a big looping hook.He's got to ride his opponents jab in on a block get in and press the guy,or jab and come in.The constant waiting on a big hook has got to end,and Ive been beating that in to his head.

[RozzySean]

Never,ever make that assumption,Christs sake,Andrew has balls of brass,but he's welterweight
Next thing I find out is VD is a heavy with a full amateur card,and get my boy killed

Exactly. When we are talking about club fighters, they sometimes start out with less real training than a lot of Golden Gloves amateurs. Some guys get put on card as opponents with a couple months of shabby training. I got started too old have an amateur career, and I'm not particularly interested in getting beaten on regularly as a second job, but guys like me, or guys with even less training, get pulled into fights. In some ways, it's easier to find a pro fight than an amateur. Amateur trainers are more protective than pro promoters.

I saw a guy on a locally televised card who didn't have a clue. He was a fat 5'9" HW who was so clueless my trainer probably wouldn't even let him spar yet. Thirty seconds into the fight, I could see how if would end - rightcross over the top of sloppiest jab I've ever seen. And that's what happened in the first round.

There's a guy at my gym who was a 6-1 amateur. I've seen him fight. I've seen Andrew fight. It wouldn't be close. He would also beat Dumas like a rented mule. I don't think Violent D is one of those guys, but you never know.

TM, can you at least talk Andrew out of throwing lead overhand rights? That would be a good start!

Oddly enough the two punches we've had the lengthiest conversations about is the overhand cross,and the uppercut. For a power punching welter he's on the short side,so he needs to press.To press he needs better defense and a straight up the pike uppercut,and an overhand cross.He cant just sit back waiting for a big looping hook.He's got to ride his opponents jab in on a block get in and press the guy,or jab and come in.The constant waiting on a big hook has got to end,and Ive been beating that in to his head.

Of course he needs that punch as a counter to the jab, but from what I saw in the Dumas fight, threw them "naked" several times, especially at times when he seemed frustrated. I'm a short fighter, too, and I use the overhand for the same reason, and it's a necessary part of his toolkit, but it needs to be a counter or behind a stiff jab, right? Best of luck to you!!

[Trainer Monkey]

Exactly. When we are talking about club fighters, they sometimes start out with less real training than a lot of Golden Gloves amateurs. Some guys get put on card as opponents with a couple months of shabby training. I got started too old have an amateur career, and I'm not particularly interested in getting beaten on regularly as a second job, but guys like me, or guys with even less training, get pulled into fights. In some ways, it's easier to find a pro fight than an amateur. Amateur trainers are more protective than pro promoters.

I saw a guy on a locally televised card who didn't have a clue. He was a fat 5'9" HW who was so clueless my trainer probably wouldn't even let him spar yet. Thirty seconds into the fight, I could see how if would end - rightcross over the top of sloppiest jab I've ever seen. And that's what happened in the first round.

There's a guy at my gym who was a 6-1 amateur. I've seen him fight. I've seen Andrew fight. It wouldn't be close. He would also beat Dumas like a rented mule. I don't think Violent D is one of those guys, but you never know.

TM, can you at least talk Andrew out of throwing lead overhand rights? That would be a good start!

Oddly enough the two punches we've had the lengthiest conversations about is the overhand cross,and the uppercut. For a power punching welter he's on the short side,so he needs to press.To press he needs better defense and a straight up the pike uppercut,and an overhand cross.He cant just sit back waiting for a big looping hook.He's got to ride his opponents jab in on a block get in and press the guy,or jab and come in.The constant waiting on a big hook has got to end,and Ive been beating that in to his head.

Of course he needs that punch as a counter to the jab, but from what I saw in the Dumas fight, threw them "naked" several times, especially at times when he seemed frustrated. I'm a short fighter, too, and I use the overhand for the same reason, and it's a necessary part of his toolkit, but it needs to be a counter or behind a stiff jab, right? Best of luck to you!!

A good combo for a shorter fighter to consider,taller fighters have an allarming tendency to throw a flicking or pawing jab.
When it comes
Hard block it out,slide in maintaining contact with the jab hand,hook to the body,bringing your opponents power arm down,uppercut straight through pike, then cross across the bridge,then either press and let them carry you or start working the body like it owes you money