It makes sense to me why Guzman didn't make weight

[Spicoli]

Mississippi Boxing Commission will probably impose a 1 year suspension on Guzman... IMO he deserved it tho it's sad to deprive him to earn a living...

He just had an oppurtunity to earn a living Nate should be payed and fight right away ,Guzman fined abit.He was hungry in all the wrong ways

[kingfrnk]

nates got a mandatory comin up soon and yes guzman should get suspended along with an old fashioned ass whoopin from nate himself.

[Taeth]

Either you guys are idiots, or you have no experience with whole cutting weight scenario. This happens sometimes. You don't think Corrales trained his ass off to make weight against Casamayor for their third fight? You don't think Gary Russell Jr. trained hard to make weight for the olympics? Or Gavin?

[Violent Demise]

Either you guys are idiots, or you have no experience with whole cutting weight scenario. This happens sometimes. You don't think Corrales trained his ass off to make weight against Casamayor for their third fight? You don't think Gary Russell Jr. trained hard to make weight for the olympics? Or Gavin?

Corrales himself said it wasn't his best training camp

[antimoron]

Either you guys are idiots, or you have no experience with whole cutting weight scenario. This happens sometimes. You don't think Corrales trained his ass off to make weight against Casamayor for their third fight? You don't think Gary Russell Jr. trained hard to make weight for the olympics? Or Gavin?

Hey easy mate on branding guys out here.. You have a point there regarding cutting weight.. But in Guzmans case, he isn't a natural 135 fighter remember.. Corrales is a tall beast for a 135 frame so the difference there already is obvious. Guzman never fought at 135 before and he easily make 130 a year ago. The issue here is why he didn't make it at 135.. He has about 3 months since they agree to fight. Remember guys they are professionals and knows the consequence of over and under trained. Since the Castillo debacle, they are already implementing a mandatory monitoring to avoid such thing to ever happen again. Guzman should know that better isn't. WHAT IT DOESN'T MAKES SENSE TO ME IS what are his team doing during his training camp? Their job is to monitor his weight and condition.

[killersheep]

Same day weigh-ins would solve this problem.

[Scrap]

Killer I make you right, Im pretty sure there seems more injurys now than there use to be. Now its a risky what some people are trying to do, some things never change, Try to be clever means youre trying so you are not.

[Taeth]

Either you guys are idiots, or you have no experience with whole cutting weight scenario. This happens sometimes. You don't think Corrales trained his ass off to make weight against Casamayor for their third fight? You don't think Gary Russell Jr. trained hard to make weight for the olympics? Or Gavin?

Hey easy mate on branding guys out here.. You have a point there regarding cutting weight.. But in Guzmans case, he isn't a natural 135 fighter remember.. Corrales is a tall beast for a 135 frame so the difference there already is obvious. Guzman never fought at 135 before and he easily make 130 a year ago. The issue here is why he didn't make it at 135.. He has about 3 months since they agree to fight. Remember guys they are professionals and knows the consequence of over and under trained. Since the Castillo debacle, they are already implementing a mandatory monitoring to avoid such thing to ever happen again. Guzman should know that better isn't. WHAT IT DOESN'T MAKES SENSE TO ME IS what are his team doing during his training camp? Their job is to monitor his weight and condition.

You can argue height all you want, but Diego COrrales wasn't coming into the ring at 148 when he was a superfeatherweight. Its unusual to see a lightweight come in at 148 let alone a superfeatherweight, that kind of weight gain means that he wasn't making weight easily, and he was doing something very unnatural with his body to get down there. Lots of times fighters will be within a few pounds of their weigh-in and not cut those pounds until closer to the weigh in becuase the longer they are at those low weights the more unhealthy it is.

As for Oscar, he should make 147 fine, he didn't just all the sudden come back down, and he didn't have any trouble making 150 against Forbes. He said he is at 151 right now, and that he will make the weight easy. If he struggled at all to make 150 I could see your guys' point, but he didn't so I think there is no conclusive evidence 147 will be a bad weight for Oscar.

[CutMeMick]

People often make it seem like loosing a few pounds is nothing.

I always say even if it's 1 weight class fighters are not just loosing let's say the 5 pounds from 135 to 130 or visa versa. The are often loosing 15-20 pounds.

Which is why since ODLH-Pac was talked about I said it was ridicoulous to think ODLH could drop down to 147 without a HUGE sacrafice.
He's gonna look like a corpse come weigh in day. Then he'll ballon up but the damage has been made by then.

I can only see a bad ending here for ODLH whether in the ring or out of ring either way I see this as a loose loose situation for him.

[XaduBoxer]

People often make it seem like loosing a few pounds is nothing.

I always say even if it's 1 weight class fighters are not just loosing let's say the 5 pounds from 135 to 130 or visa versa. The are often loosing 15-20 pounds.

Which is why since ODLH-Pac was talked about I said it was ridicoulous to think ODLH could drop down to 147 without a HUGE sacrafice.
He's gonna look like a corpse come weigh in day. Then he'll ballon up but the damage has been made by then.

I can only see a bad ending here for ODLH whether in the ring or out of ring either way I see this as a loose loose situation for him.

These type of comments will make PAC a genius for pushing and going after a DelaHoya fight at 147 lbs... Right?
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[CutMeMick]

People often make it seem like loosing a few pounds is nothing.

I always say even if it's 1 weight class fighters are not just loosing let's say the 5 pounds from 135 to 130 or visa versa. The are often loosing 15-20 pounds.

Which is why since ODLH-Pac was talked about I said it was ridicoulous to think ODLH could drop down to 147 without a HUGE sacrafice.
He's gonna look like a corpse come weigh in day. Then he'll ballon up but the damage has been made by then.

I can only see a bad ending here for ODLH whether in the ring or out of ring either way I see this as a loose loose situation for him.

These type of comments will make PAC a genius for pushing and going after a DelaHoya fight at 147 lbs... Right?
.

Uuuummm!!
ODLH had announced he was fighting at 147 long before ANY opponents were named.
I don't think the opponent had anything to do with it.
IF ANYONE had anything to do with ODLH moving down it was Cotto as if he would have won he would have fought him.

So Pac just happened to be at the right place at the right time.

[XaduBoxer]

People often make it seem like loosing a few pounds is nothing.

I always say even if it's 1 weight class fighters are not just loosing let's say the 5 pounds from 135 to 130 or visa versa. The are often loosing 15-20 pounds.

Which is why since ODLH-Pac was talked about I said it was ridicoulous to think ODLH could drop down to 147 without a HUGE sacrafice.
He's gonna look like a corpse come weigh in day. Then he'll ballon up but the damage has been made by then.

I can only see a bad ending here for ODLH whether in the ring or out of ring either way I see this as a loose loose situation for him.

These type of comments will make PAC a genius for pushing and going after a DelaHoya fight at 147 lbs... Right?
.

Uuuummm!!
ODLH had announced he was fighting at 147 long before ANY opponents were named.
I don't think the opponent had anything to do with it.
IF ANYONE had anything to do with ODLH moving down it was Cotto as if he would have won he would have fought him.

So Pac just happened to be at the right place at the right time.

And what make you think Oscar will fight Cotto at 147? Oscar will make it sure a fight with Cotto will be at 154 (see Hoya-PBF) and have all the advantages in the world... Oscar will dictate all the conditions and preferably in his favor...

You can just appreciate PAC's tough stand in asking the fight at 147 and 40% share of the purse...

Do you think Oscar will fight Margarito at 147? 154? 160?
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