American Heavyweights running scared of David Haye

[Kirkland Laing]

Haye needs to STFU about people backing out until he has a contract signed. How do I know there was no contract? Because there is no law-suit.

There are plenty of heavyweights for him to fight. But let's be honest he needs to be less picky right now, take a damn fight get the contract signed and move on. At this point he's got a date of 11/15/08 (15/11/08 for those of you outside the US) Which leaves 8 weeks for a training camp if the fight was made today. Now take away from that at least 1 week for negotiations, that leaves a 7 week training camp. Now take 1 week at the end to fly to the UK (assuming this is a US fighter) to get used to the time change, and get rid of jet lag, that leaves a 6 week training camp. Of course the training camp will need to be set-up sparring partners brought in that could another week.

So he is asking for someone to play in his backyard, for relatively little money, with an abbreviated training camp. Not sure many RANKED fighters would go for that.

This has the potential to turn into a total farce. If it goes another week and he still doesn't have somebody signed to fight him this could get downright funny.

[luvfightgame]

I ain't buying it.

He's looking for an easy fight so he's trying to fluff it up that he couldn't find a legitimate contender. It's cheap drama, but it's garbage. Finding an opponent isn't hard if your offering decent money. Trying to stack the deck and get someone to sacrifice every advantage to you for cheap and still be a legit contender is real hard. That's the struggle, but he's making out to be a fear thing. Don't believe the hype.

Danny,

I got a video request......Don't believe the hype featuring the haye maker.

[Hume]

Hayes needs to stop promoting himself and get a promoter to do it for him. I know warren is pure scum, but hayes could sign a 3 fight deal with him and get a named fighter. I'm surprised he hasn't sought out hasim rahman. I know he's still quite dangerous, though surely not as dangerous as klitschko, who he wants to fight anytime anywhere.

[smashup]

I honestly think the man he should have stayed with is Frank Maloney (Lennox's old manager)
Must have untold connections in the US after being with lewis through his heyday and it baffles me why Haye never stayed with him
Purely a money thing i'm guessing but i honestly think in the Heavyweight division Maloney would have served him well and i don't recall Lennox ever having a bad word to say about Maloney in the past.

[ross]

Here we go smashup, you could get a nice little earner here.

Johnson is promising %10 of any purse he gets from a Haye bout to whoever can persuade David to bite the bullet

Johnson Offers "Anyone" 10% of His Purse For Haye - Boxing News

[smashup]

Someone is LYING in all this and i'm starting to seriously doubt Adam Booths promoting skills
Is he well out of his depth here? How can 3/4 different fighters simply "pull out"? Did he have 4 contracts drawn up with 4 fighters?
This can't be good preparation for Haye who is due to fight in 6 weeks.

[Kel]

Someone is LYING in all this and i'm starting to seriously doubt Adam Booths promoting skills
Is he well out of his depth here? How can 3/4 different fighters simply "pull out"? Did he have 4 contracts drawn up with 4 fighters?
This can't be good preparation for Haye who is due to fight in 6 weeks.

I think you might be right, something definitely does not add up regarding all these guys pulling out.

Maybe they will say to Wlad "everyone is scared to fight me, are you?" or something along those lines.

If the money is right, Haye would have a fight. There must be something putting them off, If I was 6 foot 6 and 18 stone I'd tackle Haye anyday of the week.

[Scrap]

One thing that interest me about the Promotion is how many people turn up. Haye isnt a Big ticket seller. He struggles to fill York Hall 1400 people. Its going to be interesting trying to fill the O2, 20,000, we will see .

[Memphis]

Its an odd one for sure. Haye should have loads of fans. exciting, looks the part, can talk the talk

[ross]

He hasnt been promoted very well, not many people really know who he is.

Adam Booth is a dick head, he cant train David very well and he doesnt help to promote him very well.














Ha ha, off topic but the new pussycat dolls song has come on

"I wanna have boobies"

[smashup]

One thing that interest me about the Promotion is how many people turn up. Haye isnt a Big ticket seller. He struggles to fill York Hall 1400 people. Its going to be interesting trying to fill the O2, 20,000, we will see .

He filled the York hall with ease and they were queing round the block when he beat Fragomenni mate..i was there and the O2 was rammed out too...

Enzo v Haye
"The majority of the 18,000 seats in the Arena had long been snapped up by the public despite the early-hours start time, for a fight which was ambitiously billed the biggest in Britain since Nigel Benn and Chris Eubank squared off in 1993."

trust me david has a HUGE following in London and don't forget the O2 is literally down the round from Bermondsey where he lives

[Scrap]

I know that Smash, Ill be interested to see what occurs

[luvfightgame]

Really it's such a joke. The main problem with getting an opponent is fear? People lined up for Tyson who really did have the fear factor, but David Haye has yet to strike anyone in this division, let alone strike fear throughout it. It's a stupid promotional stunt. The sad thing is most people will buy it. It's been the headline enough that it sticks out in the average fans mind.

Everyone is afraid of David Haye except Ray Mercer, so we have to fight him even though he's 47 and lost all his recent fights.

[WelshDevilRob]

American Heavyweights are piss poor and have been for a while. Protected records and then they lose meekly. Great Shame.

Who will fight Haye - it doesn't matter - they are getting KTFO.

Holyfield had one or 2 easy fights when he stepped upto Heavy and Haye probably will aswell - cos people apart from old fogies looking for a last payday won't fight him.

Herbie Hide is an option if they need a name.

[killersheep]

American Heavyweights are piss poor and have been for a while. Protected records and then they lose meekly. Great Shame.

Who will fight Haye - it doesn't matter - they are getting KTFO.

Holyfield had one or 2 easy fights when he stepped upto Heavy and Haye probably will aswell - cos people apart from old fogies looking for a last payday won't fight him.

Herbie Hide is an option if they need a name.

Alright then let's make a list of NON-American heavyweights that don't have padded records, and I'm talking current fighters.