Quote Originally Posted by antimoron View Post
Joe is funny really... If i remember when RJJ lost to Johnson & Tarver 1-2 years ago, Joe says he has no business fighting him coz he is a spent force or something like that. He also elaborate that there is nothing to gain from beating RJJ because he is irrelevant and he is after only those other big names. So why fight now? Seems like Joe loves to kick oldies arse.. Some of you say Pavlik is a hype job and has a weak chin according to Joe... well he maybe a product of a little hype(according to haters) but he is not a spent force or a has been and most of all he is not a 40+ year old fighter... This kid can punch and knock someone out. He went up thru the ranks the hard way. Joe can say anything he wants against this kid but he will always be remembered as a fighter who fights in obscure during his prime and went only against the big name when they are past their prime (as of this time and it may change who knows).

He fights and work under Frank Warren all his career, right? And it came from Frank Warrens mouth after the Khan fight that he is matching his fighters carefully that he is to blame if his fighter fails... take note... he match his fighters only to those who are known lesser or zero risk
opponent then develop and hype them up and wait for the right time to conquer as the case of Joe himself. Everything about Warrens activity as a matchmaker was exposed after KHAN failed. He wants Khan to develop like the way Joe has by fighting unknown and to have an unblemish record.. and what happen no luck this time. My point here is that Joe was a product of hype himself and he got an unblemished record coz he never fought a significant fight until recently. His records don't lie.. I don't belittle his achievements but the way he belittle Pavliks achievements is ridiculous.. Compare what he achieved when he was at the same age of Pavlik right now. Pavlik of 25 yr old is already a lineal champ at MW, i dont think it happens by accident. What did Joe achieve when he was 25? still fighting bums i think or fighting past their prime or spent force if we use his vocabulary... I don't dislike Joe but the way he is acting and saying recently makes me laugh...

peace..
this guy is so right not to be on his nuts or nothin but he is right pavlik is already a linear champ fightin top p4p fighters and joe didnt fight any of them until hopkins fought him and some people still think hopkins won the fight. so after joe retires his legacy wont be shit because of declining a pavlik fight, and taking on an old roy jones who is past his prime. so im pretty sure the only thing good about joes legacy is that he will probably retire with a 0 for losses. while im pretty sure pavlik will line up way better fights in the future win or lose