Holt vs Torres III in the works

[CutMeMick]

It for certain should happen both men now have controversial wins over eachother. So hopefully a 3rd fight will settle the score without controversy, i think Torres wins the 3rd fight by TKO by the way.

I don't think there was anything controversial about the 1st fight.

Holt complained about"
- Hostile enviroment
- Objects being thrown
- Uncontrolled/Rowdy crowd


Uuuuummm!! It's a fucken boxing event in Colombia, what did he expect a church choir and formal dinner?

I did NOT see anything there that I haven't seen before. Holt was just looking for an excuse IMO.

[ICB]

It for certain should happen both men now have controversial wins over eachother. So hopefully a 3rd fight will settle the score without controversy, i think Torres wins the 3rd fight by TKO by the way.

I don't think there was anything controversial about the 1st fight.

Holt complained about"
- Hostile enviroment
- Objects being thrown
- Uncontrolled/Rowdy crowd


Uuuuummm!! It's a fucken boxing event in Colombia, what did he expect a church choir and formal dinner?

I did NOT see anything there that I haven't seen before. Holt was just looking for an excuse IMO.

I disagree i have only seen the fight once, but the crowd were disgraceful throwing beer cans at Holt and one even hit him didn't it ? and this was just after he floored Torres. It would of had a serious impact on his concentration.

[CutMeMick]

It for certain should happen both men now have controversial wins over eachother. So hopefully a 3rd fight will settle the score without controversy, i think Torres wins the 3rd fight by TKO by the way.

I don't think there was anything controversial about the 1st fight.

Holt complained about"
- Hostile enviroment
- Objects being thrown
- Uncontrolled/Rowdy crowd


Uuuuummm!! It's a fucken boxing event in Colombia, what did he expect a church choir and formal dinner?

I did NOT see anything there that I haven't seen before. Holt was just looking for an excuse IMO.

I disagree i have only seen the fight once, but the crowd were disgraceful throwing beer cans at Holt and one even hit him didn't it ? and this was just after he floored Torres. It would of had a serious impact on his confidence.

As I said I did not see anything there that I haven't seen in other fights.

Have you seen Valero-Mosquera?
Do you remember what the crowd was like for that?
On par with Holt-Torres there were even people who got past security and were yelling at Valero from the ringside.
Valero still went on to win.

How about Eubanks-Rocchigiani do you remember the crowd for that?
And that was just for the walk ins...

[rjj tszyu]

I don't think there was anything controversial about the 1st fight.

Holt complained about"
- Hostile enviroment
- Objects being thrown
- Uncontrolled/Rowdy crowd


Uuuuummm!! It's a fucken boxing event in Colombia, what did he expect a church choir and formal dinner?

I did NOT see anything there that I haven't seen before. Holt was just looking for an excuse IMO.

I disagree i have only seen the fight once, but the crowd were disgraceful throwing beer cans at Holt and one even hit him didn't it ? and this was just after he floored Torres. It would of had a serious impact on his confidence.

As I said I did not see anything there that I haven't seen in other fights.

Have you seen Valero-Mosquera?
Do you remember what the crowd was like for that?
On par with Holt-Torres there were even people who got past security and were yelling at Valero from the ringside.
Valero still went on to win.

How about Eubanks-Rocchigiani do you remember the crowd for that?
And that was just for the walk ins...

This fight must go ahead. I'd pay to see a re-run of no.2. Controversial ending? Yes. Entertaining? Yes. what more do you want?

[ICB]

I don't think there was anything controversial about the 1st fight.

Holt complained about"
- Hostile enviroment
- Objects being thrown
- Uncontrolled/Rowdy crowd


Uuuuummm!! It's a fucken boxing event in Colombia, what did he expect a church choir and formal dinner?

I did NOT see anything there that I haven't seen before. Holt was just looking for an excuse IMO.

I disagree i have only seen the fight once, but the crowd were disgraceful throwing beer cans at Holt and one even hit him didn't it ? and this was just after he floored Torres. It would of had a serious impact on his confidence.

As I said I did not see anything there that I haven't seen in other fights.

Have you seen Valero-Mosquera?
Do you remember what the crowd was like for that?
On par with Holt-Torres there were even people who got past security and were yelling at Valero from the ringside.
Valero still went on to win.

How about Eubanks-Rocchigiani do you remember the crowd for that?
And that was just for the walk ins...

I think i've seen Valero vs Mosquera was that the fight where Valero got knocked down ? can't remember Eubank vs Rocchigiana, but as i said Mick i believe the crowd did effect the concentration of Holt. Imagine your boxer and you got the crowd throwing beer cans at you ? thats got to have a serious effect mentality wise. Maybe it wouldn't have made of difference i don't know all i do know is that both fights were controversial, and whoever wins the 3rd meeting should settle the score.

[SweetPea]

That was a vicious KO that Torres suffered. I think he should take a little more time off.

[CutMeMick]

That was a vicious KO that Torres suffered. I think he should take a little more time off.

I think he'll be fine, the fight was early July.
The fights scheduled for Dec. that's about 5 months...

[Violent Demise]

Holt must control the pace of the fight. If he lets Torres do it he will get knocked out

[CutMeMick]

I disagree i have only seen the fight once, but the crowd were disgraceful throwing beer cans at Holt and one even hit him didn't it ? and this was just after he floored Torres. It would of had a serious impact on his confidence.

As I said I did not see anything there that I haven't seen in other fights.

Have you seen Valero-Mosquera?
Do you remember what the crowd was like for that?
On par with Holt-Torres there were even people who got past security and were yelling at Valero from the ringside.
Valero still went on to win.

How about Eubanks-Rocchigiani do you remember the crowd for that?
And that was just for the walk ins...

I think i've seen Valero vs Mosquera was that the fight where Valero got knocked down ? can't remember Eubank vs Rocchigiana, but as i said Mick i believe the crowd did effect the concentration of Holt. Imagine your boxer and you got the crowd throwing beer cans at you ? thats got to have a serious effect mentality wise. Maybe it wouldn't have made of difference i don't know all i do know is that both fights were controversial, and whoever wins the 3rd meeting should settle the score.

Well of course crwods come into play.
Why else are they there...

Crowds chant, cheer, sing, beat drums, throw paper airplanes, fire works.

Holt made it seem like it was something out of this world or something unseen before. All it was, was a rowdy crowd something that's been seen before.

[ICB]

As I said I did not see anything there that I haven't seen in other fights.

Have you seen Valero-Mosquera?
Do you remember what the crowd was like for that?
On par with Holt-Torres there were even people who got past security and were yelling at Valero from the ringside.
Valero still went on to win.

How about Eubanks-Rocchigiani do you remember the crowd for that?
And that was just for the walk ins...

I think i've seen Valero vs Mosquera was that the fight where Valero got knocked down ? can't remember Eubank vs Rocchigiana, but as i said Mick i believe the crowd did effect the concentration of Holt. Imagine your boxer and you got the crowd throwing beer cans at you ? thats got to have a serious effect mentality wise. Maybe it wouldn't have made of difference i don't know all i do know is that both fights were controversial, and whoever wins the 3rd meeting should settle the score.

Well of course crwods come into play.
Why else are they there...

Crowds chant, cheer, sing, beat drums, throw paper airplanes, fire works.

Holt made it seem like it was something out of this world or something unseen before. All it was, was a rowdy crowd something that's been seen before.

Well its probably one of the worst crowd's i've ever seen in a championship fight, i know all about rowdy crowds but this was totally different. How many fights have you seen where one fighter knocks the other fighter down, then gets beer cans thrown at him ? and infact one did hit him. I don't care who you are that would effect anyone badly mentally just think what would of happened had he won ? as i said it may or may not of made any difference but it certainly didn't help did it ?

[CutMeMick]

For starters you got all wrong. You keep saying Holt dropped Torres.
It was the other way around, Torres drops Holt and that's when the crowd goes crazy in the eleventh round.

So that arguement about Holt dropping Torres and then being dristracted is wrong. Unless the object your talking about was thrown in the 6th round which is when Holt drops Torres. But how would an object distract him when he's not the one on the canvas?

I'm not saying it wasn't a rowdy crowd, it was more then rowdy.
All I'm sayin is I don't see how that crowd was any different from others I've seen. Again I keep going back to old fights I mean how about fights out here at the Olympic grand wher the crowd used to throw money at fighters during fights?

I just think Holt and his Team used that as their way out of it...

[Mar]

...is torres finally awake ?? I hope holt ko's him and his cheating ass brother with one punch.