Haye VS. the Heavyweight division!!!!

[rjj tszyu]

I think that he could do well at heavyweight.

Holyfield
Tyson
Frazier
Liston

All these are heavys that Haye is as big as that would dominate the division in this dire day and age.

[p4pking]

I think that he could do well at heavyweight.

Holyfield
Tyson
Frazier
Liston

All these are heavys that Haye is as big as that would dominate the division in this dire day and age.

Haye couldn't hold a candle to any one of those guys. Is he big enough to be a HW champ in this division? Of course. He just isn't good enough to really become a great. I'd say any fight he takes against a capable HW who can punch is going to be a real pick em. I still think James Toney would school him badly.

[rjj tszyu]

I think that he could do well at heavyweight.

Holyfield
Tyson
Frazier
Liston

All these are heavys that Haye is as big as that would dominate the division in this dire day and age.

Haye couldn't hold a candle to any one of those guys. Is he big enough to be a HW champ in this division? Of course. He just isn't good enough to really become a great. I'd say any fight he takes against a capable HW who can punch is going to be a real pick em. I still think James Toney would school him badly.

Only time will tell this. I was simply saying he was big enough. I'd also go for Haye to beat Toney now.

[leftylee]

I'd pick Haye over EVERY heavyweight right now. Fukking fat slobs.

[rjj tszyu]

I'd pick Haye over EVERY heavyweight right now. Fukking fat slobs.

I agree. If I was betting the only one I would have any second thoughts with would be Wlad.

Wlad Vs Haye to me would be a case of who caught who first with the big shot and considering that IMO Haye has the speed over Klitschko it could well be him.

[leftylee]

I'd pick Haye over EVERY heavyweight right now. Fukking fat slobs.

I agree. If I was betting the only one I would have any second thoughts with would be Wlad.

Wlad Vs Haye to me would be a case of who caught who first with the big shot and considering that IMO Haye has the speed over Klitschko it could well be him.

I agree with the Wlad v Haye statement. I think Haye has better speed than Wlad also. And I think if Haye lands one of his Hayemaker's on a heavyweights chin bar James Toney they will get knocked out.

[p4pking]

I think that he could do well at heavyweight.

Holyfield
Tyson
Frazier
Liston

All these are heavys that Haye is as big as that would dominate the division in this dire day and age.

Haye couldn't hold a candle to any one of those guys. Is he big enough to be a HW champ in this division? Of course. He just isn't good enough to really become a great. I'd say any fight he takes against a capable HW who can punch is going to be a real pick em. I still think James Toney would school him badly.

Only time will tell this. I was simply saying he was big enough. I'd also go for Haye to beat Toney now.

I probably would have said the same at some point, but when I actually think about it and try to depict how the matchup would go, I just don't see Haye doing to well against James. Toney has way to much ring craft for Haye, who relies on his physical assets alone. James brings more skills into the fight than everyone Haye has fought combined imo, wheras Toney has dealt with anything Haye brings numerous times. You actually think Haye would win a decision against Toney, or be the first man to stop him? I'm saying hell no, he'd completely fall apart in the late rounds once he tired out trying to land a big shot, or if he tried to pace himself and box, he would lose every single round.

[rjj tszyu]

Haye couldn't hold a candle to any one of those guys. Is he big enough to be a HW champ in this division? Of course. He just isn't good enough to really become a great. I'd say any fight he takes against a capable HW who can punch is going to be a real pick em. I still think James Toney would school him badly.

Only time will tell this. I was simply saying he was big enough. I'd also go for Haye to beat Toney now.

I probably would have said the same at some point, but when I actually think about it and try to depict how the matchup would go, I just don't see Haye doing to well against James. Toney has way to much ring craft for Haye, who relies on his physical assets alone. James brings more skills into the fight than everyone Haye has fought combined imo, wheras Toney has dealt with anything Haye brings numerous times. You actually think Haye would win a decision against Toney, or be the first man to stop him? I'm saying hell no, he'd completely fall apart in the late rounds once he tired out trying to land a big shot, or if he tried to pace himself and box, he would lose every single round.

Well I think Sam Peters boxing skills are a lot more limited than Hayes but he took a clear decision over Toney second time around so yes i tink he would take a decision against him. Although even though Toney has a good chin no man could stand up to too many of Hayes Hayemakers and with Toneys advancing years to take into account he could well be the first man to KO him.

As a side note though the pre match poster would be a good advertisement for an anti-drug campaign. Picture of the muscular Haye saying "Say No to Drugs and look like me" and one of Toney saying "Look at me. I took Steroids".