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You know, I think honestly that Tarver had Jones' number. Roy had everything in spades over Tarver, but for some reason Antonio was just in his head. I think Tarver was the one guy for Roy, just like Vernon was the one guy for Shane.
Exactly...this forum is full of RJJ nuthuggers and Tarver haters. Roy Jones was Jesus, Moses, Muhammed, and the Dali Lama to people and they can't accept that for all his greatness, he had flaws and Tarver was the right guy to expose the flaws.
You could be right! Its just funny that it came after all the weight draining.

I am a huge Jones fan but I know EVERY fighter in history has flaws. Even Ali had his, he was slightly susceptible to a good left hook as Frazier and Cooper showed and Ken Norton was a nightmare fighter for him.
The Ken Norton analogy is very good one. And Ali pulled his head straight back, which is a technical flaw and made his vunerble to the left hook. Ali liked to fight going backwards. Ken Norton could only fight coming forward. Ali's style played right into Norton's hands. Ali is unquestionable the greater fighter, but Norton had his number.

As for the weight loss, Jones entered the right at 193 against Ruiz, and think it's safe to assume that he didn't sweat out any water before the weigh-in because he at HW the weigh in is just a formality. On a normal fight night at LH, Roy would fight at 175, probably draining out about 10 lbs of water to make weight. So his fight night weight would be around 185. Even if Jones only draining 5lbs, that brings him in at 180. So Roy only had to take off 10-15 lbs, probably closer to 10. It's not like he ballooned up to 205. The probably had some impact, but I believe it's greatly overblown, and by second fight, he had plenty of time to recover.