Has to be De La Hoya. 6 weight world champ. The biggest name in the industry today and has beat other ATG such as Whittaker and Chavez and has fought how many former world champs?
Has to be De La Hoya. 6 weight world champ. The biggest name in the industry today and has beat other ATG such as Whittaker and Chavez and has fought how many former world champs?
Oscar has beaten 16 former champions i think he has faced 20 so to me he has to be the best pluse. there fight was way close many thought Oscar Del Hoya won that fight so just goes to show how close the fight really was and Oscar was never dominated as bad in his loses but that just a thought.
Like I said befor, DLH was just the smarter man. Every fight he made after he left Bob Arum was carefully planned and weighed. He was alwaise in an advantagous position. The only fight he made in which he was in a noticable disadvantage was against Hopkins. I give him all the respaect for that one.
I also give him much respect for fighting Quartey, Whitaker and Trinidad at a time when the Welterweight champions would not fight eachother till he came along. But still the respect I got for DLH is not near the respect I have for Trinidad's long reign as a welterweight and for his amazing run from about 98 to 2001.
Against Mostley the first time, he was fighting a popular fighter coming up from lightweight, still getting adjusted to the welterweight division. He lost so he went up in weight and tryed again.
Against Vargas, Mayorga, Carr, Gatti & Campas he was fighting damaged goods. Personal Note, his fight with Gotti was a complete joke IMO.
Against Mayweather, he tried to get all the dices in his favor. The ring size, the gloves, the weight.. nothing worked.
Now he is going after Paquiao. I don't think I have to comment on this one.
I think Trinidad showed after his fight with DLH till his first retirement that he was the better fighter. I have strong doubts that DLH woulv'e done as good as Trinidad did against an undefeated Vargas and Reid and against a prime Joppy (an under appretiated performance IMO).
Trinidad's retirements and failed comebacks have hurt his legacy but in the end he will always be the better and far more entertaining fighter IMHO.
Also, like Tito Fan said, DLH's inmense popularity means you gotta give these poll's like a 10-20 point curve.
Come one now that is a bit one sided Rookie remeber that Oscar started out in the sfw divison and he beat alot of names before he even got to welterweight division. Say what you want about Oscar but he was never dominated as bad as Trinidad atleast in my eyes. Pound for Pound i say Oscar better then Trinidad is pluse i think every one Oscar lost to could beat Trindad. Yea i am saying that Mayweather and Mosley can beat Trinidad because what i learned form the Oscar fight is that Trinidad can be outboxed and he has no plain B if it does happen he has like no answer for it well he does have a answer to hit the guy in the balls. I think that Oscar would atleast try something different if he was Losing to Wright that fight was said to watch Trinidad looked like he never boxed before pluse at least Oscar did not call it quites after his first defeat. Then comes out of retirement only to quite again after getting dominated whast up with that.
Last edited by Mr140; 09-21-2008 at 10:19 PM.
As for damage goods might as well been that Oscar delt with them better the Trinidad did if not for that Bs decsion with Oscar and Trinidads fight. We would not even question who was the better fighter is i know Oscar is a way better boxer then Trinidad is i while tell you that.
I don't mean to be one sided in this argument. I honestly do have mad respect for Oscar. It just bothers me when people just diss Tito and say stuff like Oscar was obviously better yatta yatta. I do not agree that the guys who beat Oscar wou've beat Tito, not at Welterweight, and especially not at 154, but that is just my opinion. I can't say the same about Oscar.
I don't agree that Oscar did better than Tito on common opponents, as a matter of fact, for the most part it was the opposit.
I don't agree with saying Oscar was better simply because he won titles in 6 weight divisions. You really have to look deeper than that. One of those was against Sturm, another one of those was against Castillejo...
In the end the question is who had the better career and it is hard to say if any boxer in history had a better career than Oscar. But if you ask me who was the greater Fighter, I will always say Tito..
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