Khan derailed – Echoes of the Prince ?

[Shamrock]

Whether or not Naz would have beaten Barrera had he done things different is irrelevant. He had a GREAT career. He lost to a GREAT fighter.

Sorry.. but I dont see what you are left with concerning the khan comparison? They have both been in car accidents. They signed SKY deals. They both changed trainers.

That's not much, is it?

I guess you missed my point and I'm through trying to explain it.

Hamed was a GOOD fighter, he had a GOOD career and he lost to a GREAT fighter. Had be beaten MAB I would maybe have gone for 3 greats

[porkypara]

Whether or not Naz would have beaten Barrera had he done things different is irrelevant. He had a GREAT career. He lost to a GREAT fighter.

Sorry.. but I dont see what you are left with concerning the khan comparison? They have both been in car accidents. They signed SKY deals. They both changed trainers.

That's not much, is it?

I guess you missed my point and I'm through trying to explain it.

Hamed was a GOOD fighter, he had a GOOD career and he lost to a GREAT fighter. Had be beaten MAB I would maybe have gone for 3 greats

I would say there are not many other British fighters apart from Lewis who have had careers as good as Hamed.

And I dont even like the bloke

[Shamrock]

Whether or not Naz would have beaten Barrera had he done things different is irrelevant. He had a GREAT career. He lost to a GREAT fighter.

Sorry.. but I dont see what you are left with concerning the khan comparison? They have both been in car accidents. They signed SKY deals. They both changed trainers.

That's not much, is it?

I guess you missed my point and I'm through trying to explain it.

Hamed was a GOOD fighter, he had a GOOD career and he lost to a GREAT fighter. Had be beaten MAB I would maybe have gone for 3 greats

I would say there are not many other British fighters apart from Lewis who have had careers as good as Hamed.

And I dont even like the bloke

I guess it depends on your definition of good/great and how far back you're looking...

I was a big Naseem fan from his very early fights and maybe I'm being a little hard on him because I feel a little short changed... he did achieve a lot but could have achieved so much more.

He did give us some great fights - I went to a number of them including the one in Wales against Steve Robinson when Naz boxed an almost perfect fight.

[porkypara]

I guess you missed my point and I'm through trying to explain it.

Hamed was a GOOD fighter, he had a GOOD career and he lost to a GREAT fighter. Had be beaten MAB I would maybe have gone for 3 greats

I would say there are not many other British fighters apart from Lewis who have had careers as good as Hamed.

And I dont even like the bloke

I guess it depends on your definition of good/great and how far back you're looking...

I was a big Naseem fan from his very early fights and maybe I'm being a little hard on him because I feel a little short changed... he did achieve a lot but could have achieved so much more.

He did give us some great fights - I went to a number of them including the one in Wales against Steve Robinson when Naz boxed an almost perfect fight.

He fought for all the main belts at his weight,headlined in New York and Vegas in Big fights,was one of the countrys most know faces at the time,brought a lot of new fight fans to the game with his unique showbiz style.Mega rich.

I would say thats a definition of a great career.

Plus he knew when it was time to get out of the game.

[Shamrock]

I would say there are not many other British fighters apart from Lewis who have had careers as good as Hamed.

And I dont even like the bloke

I guess it depends on your definition of good/great and how far back you're looking...

I was a big Naseem fan from his very early fights and maybe I'm being a little hard on him because I feel a little short changed... he did achieve a lot but could have achieved so much more.

He did give us some great fights - I went to a number of them including the one in Wales against Steve Robinson when Naz boxed an almost perfect fight.

He fought for all the main belts at his weight,headlined in New York and Vegas in Big fights,was one of the countrys most know faces at the time,brought a lot of new fight fans to the game with his unique showbiz style.Mega rich.

I would say thats a definition of a great career.

Plus he knew when it was time to get out of the game.

I know what you are saying but for me he fell at the final hurdle to greatness when losing to MAB. Maybe I am being a little hard on him

[porkypara]

I guess it depends on your definition of good/great and how far back you're looking...

I was a big Naseem fan from his very early fights and maybe I'm being a little hard on him because I feel a little short changed... he did achieve a lot but could have achieved so much more.

He did give us some great fights - I went to a number of them including the one in Wales against Steve Robinson when Naz boxed an almost perfect fight.

He fought for all the main belts at his weight,headlined in New York and Vegas in Big fights,was one of the countrys most know faces at the time,brought a lot of new fight fans to the game with his unique showbiz style.Mega rich.

I would say thats a definition of a great career.

Plus he knew when it was time to get out of the game.

I know what you are saying but for me he fell at the final hurdle to greatness when losing to MAB. Maybe I am being a little hard on him

I understand what you are saying.I think at that stage of his career Hamed liked the showBiz part of boxing more than the fighting part of boxing.Pity.

My father and brother went to the Robinson fight in Cardiff,I could not go due to the fact I was in basic training in the army at the time.

[Fenster]

Whether or not Naz would have beaten Barrera had he done things different is irrelevant. He had a GREAT career. He lost to a GREAT fighter.

Sorry.. but I dont see what you are left with concerning the khan comparison? They have both been in car accidents. They signed SKY deals. They both changed trainers.

That's not much, is it?

I guess you missed my point and I'm through trying to explain it.

Hamed was a GOOD fighter, he had a GOOD career and he lost to a GREAT fighter. Had be beaten MAB I would maybe have gone for 3 greats

I would class winning what Naz did, EARNING what Naz did and retiring at 27 as a GREAT career.

Sorry i missed your point. I think the Naz/Khan comparison is crap though - and always has been

[Shamrock]

Whether or not Naz would have beaten Barrera had he done things different is irrelevant. He had a GREAT career. He lost to a GREAT fighter.

Sorry.. but I dont see what you are left with concerning the khan comparison? They have both been in car accidents. They signed SKY deals. They both changed trainers.

That's not much, is it?

I guess you missed my point and I'm through trying to explain it.

Hamed was a GOOD fighter, he had a GOOD career and he lost to a GREAT fighter. Had be beaten MAB I would maybe have gone for 3 greats

I would class winning what Naz did, EARNING what Naz did and retiring at 27 as a GREAT career.

Sorry i missed your point. I think the Naz/Khan comparison is crap though - and always has been

It's cool mate - it would be a pretty boring forum if we all agreed on everything

Opinions are like @rse holes - everyone has one

[ICB]

Whether or not Naz would have beaten Barrera had he done things different is irrelevant. He had a GREAT career. He lost to a GREAT fighter.

Sorry.. but I dont see what you are left with concerning the khan comparison? They have both been in car accidents. They signed SKY deals. They both changed trainers.

That's not much, is it?

I guess you missed my point and I'm through trying to explain it.

Hamed was a GOOD fighter, he had a GOOD career and he lost to a GREAT fighter. Had be beaten MAB I would maybe have gone for 3 greats

I would class winning what Naz did, EARNING what Naz did and retiring at 27 as a GREAT career.

Sorry i missed your point. I think the Naz/Khan comparison is crap though - and always has been

I think the only comparison is that they both had similar incidents regarding cars other than that i see no comparison's at all.

[MIKAY]

U say your comparing nas and kahn as person's but i dont see any comparisons at all, nas was a cocky, flashy big mouth, whilst khan is more humble, down to earth fella. So your post doesnt even make sense.

The only reason the two are compared is because of thier skin color and religion as there is absalutly no other comparisons.

They both have completly different styles, body shapes and techniques, nas small, hard to hit, powerhouse whilst khan lanky, easy to hit with a poor chin.

on the money sides, nas was the type of person to rub his money in your face like mayweather and kahn dont think ive ever heard him talk about his money.

so what was you point again?

[Shamrock]

U say your comparing nas and kahn as person's but i dont see any comparisons at all, nas was a cocky, flashy big mouth, whilst khan is more humble, down to earth fella. So your post doesnt even make sense.

The only reason the two are compared is because of thier skin color and religion as there is absalutly no other comparisons.

They both have completly different styles, body shapes and techniques, nas small, hard to hit, powerhouse whilst khan lanky, easy to hit with a poor chin.

on the money sides, nas was the type of person to rub his money in your face like mayweather and kahn dont think ive ever heard him talk about his money.

so what was you point again?

An acrimonious split with the trainer he started with. Driving like an idiot giving the impression he thinks the rules don't apply. Forgetting to use hi skills and trying to walk through his opponent. All similar mistakes to Naseem with the difference being Khan is making the mistakes early.

That was my point and if you don't agree I'm not about to lose sleep over it...