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Antonio Margarito really beat Daniel Santos, but Santos got a gift decision. Plus the fight was at 154 and Santos was 170 pounds on fight night which was 10 pounds heavier than Margarito. And Antonio Margarito's other losses was when he was a teenager fighting grown men, the only real loss i consider on Margarito's resume is the Williams loss.
Ok, Santos really wan

So what if Santos weighed more on fight night, he weighed the same at the weigh in and thats all that matters, what your saying is Santos had more to sacrifice to make weight, thats why Margarito went down a weight and then he was in the same position as Santos over little Cotto.

Even if you only consider Margaritos real loss Williams, well Williams managed to lose to a fighter that Cotto had already beat (regardless of the rematch, he lost.)

Mosley couldnt do anything with Cotto and this is his claim to fame

Mick, why wouldnt I credit Mosley with a win if I think Mayorga is going to?
You haven't even seen Santos vs Margarito 2 so how can you comment on it ? its obvious the size had an impact on the fight. Margarito was getting stunned and hurt more often than he usely does, because of the weight difference.

And the headbutt which badly cut Margarito changed the fight around aswell, but Margarito still deserved to win and if you score it RBR then its impossible to have Santos winning IMO.

Have you ever heard of styles make fights ? Williams style was effective against Margarito, because he could outwork Margarito, use angles, and because Margarito come forward. Williams could not use those advantages against Quintana because Quintana was a mover and a Southpaw.

But didn't Williams destroy Quintana in half a round in the rematch when he was motivated ? so i don't see your point. Mosley couldn't do anything with Cotto ? have you even watched the fight ? i had the fight a draw and Mosley come on really strong at the end, and looked the stronger fighter after 12 rounds. Because he was coming forward where as Cotto was cut and on the backfoot.