Nationality of Judges in "World" Title Fights?

[Trainer Monkey]

Right.. so it's cheaper to have THREE American judges in America.. well surely it's CHEAPER to have THREE BRIT judges in Britain!?! Or Three Germans in Germany.. Or Three Japanese in Japan?

Calzaghe-Lacy England - judge:Nelson Vazquez 119-105 | judge: Roy Francis 119-107 | judge: Adalaide Byrd 119-107

What was Byrd and Vazquez doing there? Three Brit judges could have done it, no?

Its cheaper,but again,you dont have the judge pool to draw from,you do realize judges have a ranking system dont you
Your not exactly going to grab a judge from the Blue Horizon to judge a fight at Madison Square Garden,are you?
You just dont have enough people to have a deep enough judge pool
ANd you still dont understand the US,there is no ethnic identity in this country,and until you get that through your head,you'll never understand how ludicrous your conspiracy theories sound.
Philadelphia has as much in common with Los Angeles as England has in common with Mars
Grand Rapids is a long way from Las Vegas,and Hatton is more popular here in the states then Mayweather, he lost,get over it

What does this have to do with Hatton-Floyd? I used that as an example. I picked Floyd to KO Hatton, I couldn't careless about that fight.

"ludicrous conspiracy theories"?

I'm not accusing anyone of foul play. It's a simple oddity that ONLY in America (someone may yet find this is wrong) "world" title fights can be judged by THREE Americans even with a non-American as one of the competitors.

Again,there are more and higher ranked judges in the states,its a larger pool to choose from
And again,the Nationality theory,let me try to explain this country so you finally understand by using a different sport
Baseball
Along the Northeastern Seaboard there are 3 different Major Teams,The Yankees,The Red Sox,and The Phillies
If the Yankees were playing the Cuban National team you would find lifelong Reagan Free Market Conservatives in Philly and Boston saying,"You know that Castro wasnt a bad guy after all"
Tyson-Bruno I think most people in the states were rooting for Bruno,I know I was

[Fenster]

err.. you mean like the Scots and Welsh hating the English?

[Trainer Monkey]

err.. you mean like the Scots and Welsh hating the English?

Difference is,if its a Yank against an Englishmen,youd put aside differences for one night
The only way those three cities would put aside their differences would involve tactical nuke strikes

[Fenster]

err.. you mean like the Scots and Welsh hating the English?

Difference is,if its a Yank against an Englishmen,youd put aside differences for one night
The only way those three cities would put aside their differences would involve tactical nuke strikes

No.. that's not the case at all. Wow! You'd be surprised how deep and passionate the hatred is between the home nations for certain peoples.

You know some Manchester UTD footballer supporters will cheer for Hatton to lose because he supports Man City.. that's people from his hometown.

In a recent WBO boxing contest - Alex Arthur (scotland) blamed the three English judges and English ref for favouring his English opponent Nicky Cook.

[Fenster]

there are more and higher ranked judges in the states,its a larger pool to choose from

The same judges names pop up time and time again though... Chuck Giampa, Dave Moretti, Paul Smith etc...

[Trainer Monkey]

there are more and higher ranked judges in the states,its a larger pool to choose from

The same judges names pop up time and time again though... Chuck Giampa, Dave Moretti, Paul Smith etc...

Your not getting either
A) The judges get ranked as well,and they dont get to judge fights if theyre ranking isnt good
or
B) We're having the same round and round as we allways do about Nationality,there is no Nationality in the states,none whatsoever. About the only thing I have in common with someone from Kansas is that we are both carbon based lifeforms
No common food,no common dress,not even common race,absolutely nothing whatsoever.
You live in a country that has generally the same basic ethnicity(dont even try,I know more about British history then you do I guarantee it)I live in a country where nobody has anything in common with anyone,ever.
I am no closer to a Floridian then I am to the moon(Which I learned the hard way when I had to live there for a year) region by region everything is different,its like going to a foriegn continent,and none of them like each other

[Kirkland Laing]

The sanctioning bodies are operated by/staffed with mainly US people including judges. You do get foreign judges officiating at big US fights (eg. the English gut (Larry O' Connell?) that gave Lewis-Holyfield 1 to Holyfield) but often it's the same small group of people who get picked from, make of that what you will.

I think it's just cheaper for the sanctioning bodies to assess and accredit domestic people and physically get them to the fights. They all grew from basically one-man bands (the WBU iirc is run from a cottage in Norfolk) so they're naturally going to start with the cheapest, easiest options to get enough judges to run their rackets, sorry, sanctioning bodies.

[Fenster]

there are more and higher ranked judges in the states,its a larger pool to choose from

The same judges names pop up time and time again though... Chuck Giampa, Dave Moretti, Paul Smith etc...

Your not getting either
A) The judges get ranked as well,and they dont get to judge fights if theyre ranking isnt good
or
B) We're having the same round and round as we allways do about Nationality,there is no Nationality in the states,none whatsoever. About the only thing I have in common with someone from Kansas is that we are both carbon based lifeforms
No common food,no common dress,not even common race,absolutely nothing whatsoever.
You live in a country that has generally the same basic ethnicity(dont even try,I know more about British history then you do I guarantee it)I live in a country where nobody has anything in common with anyone,ever.
I am no closer to a Floridian then I am to the moon(Which I learned the hard way when I had to live there for a year) region by region everything is different,its like going to a foriegn continent,and none of them like each other

Blimey! I think your world view is a bit naive and a tad warped.

And I haven't got a clue what any of that has do with ONLY in America we can find THREE American Judges deciding the outcome of a fight that involves a non-American.

[killersheep]

Its cheaper,but again,you dont have the judge pool to draw from,you do realize judges have a ranking system dont you
Your not exactly going to grab a judge from the Blue Horizon to judge a fight at Madison Square Garden,are you?
You just dont have enough people to have a deep enough judge pool
ANd you still dont understand the US,there is no ethnic identity in this country,and until you get that through your head,you'll never understand how ludicrous your conspiracy theories sound.
Philadelphia has as much in common with Los Angeles as England has in common with Mars
Grand Rapids is a long way from Las Vegas,and Hatton is more popular here in the states then Mayweather, he lost,get over it

What does this have to do with Hatton-Floyd? I used that as an example. I picked Floyd to KO Hatton, I couldn't careless about that fight.

"ludicrous conspiracy theories"?

I'm not accusing anyone of foul play. It's a simple oddity that ONLY in America (someone may yet find this is wrong) "world" title fights can be judged by THREE Americans even with a non-American as one of the competitors.

Again,there are more and higher ranked judges in the states,its a larger pool to choose from
And again,the Nationality theory,let me try to explain this country so you finally understand by using a different sport
Baseball
Along the Northeastern Seaboard there are 3 different Major Teams,The Yankees,The Red Sox,and The Phillies
If the Yankees were playing the Cuban National team you would find lifelong Reagan Free Market Conservatives in Philly and Boston saying,"You know that Castro wasnt a bad guy after all"
Tyson-Bruno I think most people in the states were rooting for Bruno,I know I was

Thing is, if I'm not mistaken (and I may be) all three judges from the Hatton-Mayweather fight were from Las Vegas.

[Trainer Monkey]

What does this have to do with Hatton-Floyd? I used that as an example. I picked Floyd to KO Hatton, I couldn't careless about that fight.

"ludicrous conspiracy theories"?

I'm not accusing anyone of foul play. It's a simple oddity that ONLY in America (someone may yet find this is wrong) "world" title fights can be judged by THREE Americans even with a non-American as one of the competitors.

Again,there are more and higher ranked judges in the states,its a larger pool to choose from
And again,the Nationality theory,let me try to explain this country so you finally understand by using a different sport
Baseball
Along the Northeastern Seaboard there are 3 different Major Teams,The Yankees,The Red Sox,and The Phillies
If the Yankees were playing the Cuban National team you would find lifelong Reagan Free Market Conservatives in Philly and Boston saying,"You know that Castro wasnt a bad guy after all"
Tyson-Bruno I think most people in the states were rooting for Bruno,I know I was

Thing is, if I'm not mistaken (and I may be) all three judges from the Hatton-Mayweather fight were from Las Vegas.

And Mayweather is from Michigan,not exactly a home town fave

[Mar]

Don't leave the fight up to the judges, then it really won't even matter where they're from. Judging cheating etc....is a people thing not a race thing.

[Fenster]

Don't leave the fight up to the judges, then it really won't even matter where they're from. Judging cheating etc....is a people thing not a race thing.

err..a?