Nationality of Judges in "World" Title Fights?

[Fenster]

The sanctioning bodies are operated by/staffed with mainly US people including judges. You do get foreign judges officiating at big US fights (eg. the English gut (Larry O' Connell?) that gave Lewis-Holyfield 1 to Holyfield) but often it's the same small group of people who get picked from, make of that what you will.

I think it's just cheaper for the sanctioning bodies to assess and accredit domestic people and physically get them to the fights. They all grew from basically one-man bands (the WBU iirc is run from a cottage in Norfolk) so they're naturally going to start with the cheapest, easiest options to get enough judges to run their rackets, sorry, sanctioning bodies.

Yeah there's numerous examples of foreign judges officiating in the States.

That doesn't answer though why outside the States there's no fight with home-country judges.. the sanctioning bodies can't appoint three UK judges?

[Trainer Monkey]

The sanctioning bodies are operated by/staffed with mainly US people including judges. You do get foreign judges officiating at big US fights (eg. the English gut (Larry O' Connell?) that gave Lewis-Holyfield 1 to Holyfield) but often it's the same small group of people who get picked from, make of that what you will.

I think it's just cheaper for the sanctioning bodies to assess and accredit domestic people and physically get them to the fights. They all grew from basically one-man bands (the WBU iirc is run from a cottage in Norfolk) so they're naturally going to start with the cheapest, easiest options to get enough judges to run their rackets, sorry, sanctioning bodies.

Yeah there's numerous examples of foreign judges officiating in the States.

That doesn't answer though why outside the States there's no fight with home-country judges.. the sanctioning bodies can't appoint three UK judges?

And Ive explained it too you 5 times now,and so did Kirkland,its cheaper,theres a deeper pool to choose from

[Fenster]

The sanctioning bodies are operated by/staffed with mainly US people including judges. You do get foreign judges officiating at big US fights (eg. the English gut (Larry O' Connell?) that gave Lewis-Holyfield 1 to Holyfield) but often it's the same small group of people who get picked from, make of that what you will.

I think it's just cheaper for the sanctioning bodies to assess and accredit domestic people and physically get them to the fights. They all grew from basically one-man bands (the WBU iirc is run from a cottage in Norfolk) so they're naturally going to start with the cheapest, easiest options to get enough judges to run their rackets, sorry, sanctioning bodies.

Yeah there's numerous examples of foreign judges officiating in the States.

That doesn't answer though why outside the States there's no fight with home-country judges.. the sanctioning bodies can't appoint three UK judges?

And Ive explained it too you 5 times now,and so did Kirkland,its cheaper,theres a deeper pool to choose from

It's CHEAPER to send an American to Britain?

[Trainer Monkey]

Yeah there's numerous examples of foreign judges officiating in the States.

That doesn't answer though why outside the States there's no fight with home-country judges.. the sanctioning bodies can't appoint three UK judges?

And Ive explained it too you 5 times now,and so did Kirkland,its cheaper,theres a deeper pool to choose from

It's CHEAPER to send an American to Britain?

Lets try it using math,if there are 100 acredited judges from the states,and 50 others world wide,what are the odds that sooner or later a fight would end up with three American Judges?
Hell count your blessings until the late 60's European judges almost never got used in the states,youve come along way baby

[Fenster]

And Ive explained it too you 5 times now,and so did Kirkland,its cheaper,theres a deeper pool to choose from

It's CHEAPER to send an American to Britain?

Lets try it using math,if there are 100 acredited judges from the states,and 50 others world wide,what are the odds that sooner or later a fight would end up with three American Judges?
Hell count your blessings until the late 60's European judges almost never got used in the states,youve come along way baby

Ok.. i suppose if there's NO judges anywhere in the whole wide world available on the night an American faces a non-American three American judges would make sense.

So we have eliminated COST as an excuse, yes, and it's now about availability?

[Trainer Monkey]

It's CHEAPER to send an American to Britain?

Lets try it using math,if there are 100 acredited judges from the states,and 50 others world wide,what are the odds that sooner or later a fight would end up with three American Judges?
Hell count your blessings until the late 60's European judges almost never got used in the states,youve come along way baby

Ok.. i suppose if there's NO judges anywhere in the whole wide world available on the night an American faces a non-American three American judges would make sense.

So we have eliminated COST as an excuse, yes, and it's now about availability?

No its about ODDS,It would happen sooner or later,when there are twice as many US judges,it was going to happen eventually
What are the odds that it wouldnt,youd need serious Algebra to figure that out

[Trainer Monkey]

You know Fenster this is the equivalent of me sending a fighter to Cali,and complaining that all three of the judges were from the West Coast and there werent any West Virginia judges

[Fenster]

OK, Trainermonkey - you've done my head in enough for now

By the way.. in the street I live on there's Pakistanis, Turkish Cypriots, West Indians, Chinese etc, etc... all walks of life

[Kirkland Laing]

The sanctioning bodies are operated by/staffed with mainly US people including judges. You do get foreign judges officiating at big US fights (eg. the English gut (Larry O' Connell?) that gave Lewis-Holyfield 1 to Holyfield) but often it's the same small group of people who get picked from, make of that what you will.

I think it's just cheaper for the sanctioning bodies to assess and accredit domestic people and physically get them to the fights. They all grew from basically one-man bands (the WBU iirc is run from a cottage in Norfolk) so they're naturally going to start with the cheapest, easiest options to get enough judges to run their rackets, sorry, sanctioning bodies.

Yeah there's numerous examples of foreign judges officiating in the States.

That doesn't answer though why outside the States there's no fight with home-country judges.. the sanctioning bodies can't appoint three UK judges?

The BBBC wouldn't let them. I don't think they even let the WBU/F do that. If it's a world title fight in Britain, even a WBU fight, the BBBC want to at least look like they're fair and impartial. In the States, especially Vegas, the powers-that-be want judges who are reliable in that they'll vote for the aggressive fighter in a fight to encourage more exciting fights. IMHO anyway.

[Fenster]

The sanctioning bodies are operated by/staffed with mainly US people including judges. You do get foreign judges officiating at big US fights (eg. the English gut (Larry O' Connell?) that gave Lewis-Holyfield 1 to Holyfield) but often it's the same small group of people who get picked from, make of that what you will.

I think it's just cheaper for the sanctioning bodies to assess and accredit domestic people and physically get them to the fights. They all grew from basically one-man bands (the WBU iirc is run from a cottage in Norfolk) so they're naturally going to start with the cheapest, easiest options to get enough judges to run their rackets, sorry, sanctioning bodies.

Yeah there's numerous examples of foreign judges officiating in the States.

That doesn't answer though why outside the States there's no fight with home-country judges.. the sanctioning bodies can't appoint three UK judges?

The BBBC wouldn't let them. I don't think they even let the WBU/F do that. If it's a world title fight in Britain, even a WBU fight, the BBBC want to at least look like they're fair and impartial. In the States, especially Vegas, the powers-that-be want judges who are reliable in that they'll vote for the aggressive fighter in a fight to encourage more exciting fights. IMHO anyway.

That probably makes a bit more sense.

Look.. "World" title fights between Brits -

Naz-Hardy - judge: Roy Francis | judge: Mickey Vann | judge: Dave Parris ~

Eubank-Calzaghe - judge: Paul Thomas 116-111 | judge: Roy Francis 118-110 | judge: Dave Parris 118-109

The alphabets have no problem appointing all Brit judges to all Brit title fights.